bladder med withdrawal

Body: 

I decided to ditch the Detrol. Maybe I should have done so "under medical supervision." Cold turkey technique (I just stopped taking it) gave me a headache and the shakes. It felt something like altitude sickness. Since I was driving through mountain passes a lot last week, it didn't occur to me till a couple days into it that it might be Detrol withdrawal. Only one day's mountain driving was anywhere near high enough to cause altitude symptoms.

I couldn't find out anything online about what might be expected to happen. Some helpful site just said that quitting a medication can cause symptoms because the body develops a "dependence" on regularly taken medications. I didn't realize what a global effect that drug was having. Weird stuff, and it didn't really help with the surprise bladder leaks. So, I will continue onward, with more natural means.

Saddleup

I got this for my mom. She hasn't told me how it's worked yet, but here's the info on it if you were looking for something else...
BetterWOMAN®
40 capsules
Item Catalog Number: 00653

Incontinence, the inability to control excretory functions, is a common problem. In fact, the National Institutes of Health estimates that 13 million adults suffer from urinary incontinence.63 It is not just a symptom of age or infirmity. The muscles in the bladder and urethra may become weak due to childbirth resulting in accidental wetting when one coughs or laughs. Loss of hormones during menopause could also help to weaken the urinary system. Other causes include damage to bladder nerves, urinary tract, or a blockage in the urethra, a rarity in women.

The condition, also referred to as overactive bladder, is characterized by a sudden urge to urinate because of muscle contractions around the bladder, which may lead to involuntary leakage. Usually urinary frequency is more than normal, perhaps as much as eight to ten times in a 24-hour period. This may interrupt sleep patterns, as you wake up several times a night to pass urine.

Because of the personal nature of this condition, many people are reluctant to discuss it with their doctors. Specific exercises to strengthen the muscles around the bladder and urethra can help control leakage. Biofeedback is also used to help control the muscles. Along with building up the muscles, there are natural herbs that have been shown to help maintain healthy urinary bladder function.

Life Extension offers a natural herbal product that is designed to support healthy urinary tract function. The 20 standardized herbs contained in BetterWOMAN® have been used in Chinese medicine for centuries to address the multiple mechanisms necessary for proper bladder function and control. This formula is a holistic approach to help create the optimal function of the urinary tract and muscles.*

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Supplement Facts

Serving Size 1 capsule

Servings Per Container 40
Amount Per Serving

Proprietary herbal blend

400 mg

Asian ginseng (root), Chinese yam (rhizome), Chinese peony (root), deer antler (velvet), astragalus (root), poria (sclerotium), morinda (root), Asiatic dogwood (fruit), eucommia (bark), dong quai (root), Bupleurum (root), lycium (fruit), rehmannia (root), epimedium (leaf), sichuan lovage (rhizone), schisandra (fruit) eleuthero (root), cynomorium (stem), cassia (bark) palm-leaf raspberry (fruit).

Other ingredients: gelatin, microcrystalline cellulose, water, magnesium stearate, silicon dioxide.
Dosage and Use

Two capsules daily: one after breakfast and one after dinner.

Minimum dosage three bottles. Take a three-day break between each bottle. Continue use thereafter for optimal results.

Drugs are hard on our body! I think your post is such a good reminder that everything affects our whole system, even when doctors say it won't. How can it not? We are a complete structure. I would think the best thing is to naturally help your body detox. Go for lots of walks in fresh air. Drink lots of healthy juices and tons of water, especially as it's a bladder med, to really clear it out. Avoid other toxins ie sugars, caffeine etc. maybe you can find out what the time it takes for it to clear your body is by calling the company? but i know for a foods it takes about 2 weeks, so give it time...

Saddleup, what a strange thing to have happen- the shakes and headache- I bet you are glad to be off the stuff. I want to say the one person I knew on this med weaned off gradually-
So what is next on the trial list?

Thanks to mom30 for the suggestion. I have seen this supplement advertised. Ummm, "deer antler (velvet)"???? That's a pretty strange ingredient and not exactly herbal within the definition of the term.

Mostly, I would say that my problems with urinary incontinence are not so-called "urge" incontinence. They stem from the unnatural position into which the bladder has fallen.

For several months I did try using Bell's Bladder Support herbal tea. I kept thinking that it ought to help--I mean, all those testimonials couldn't be wrong, could they? But I had no fewer incidents while using the tea than when I wasn't using it, even after several weeks. So I am left with the anatomical explanation.

The good news is that, since withdrawing the Detrol from my system, I have experienced less urinary incontinence than while I was on the drug. Long term, I don't know what is in store. This medication builds up its effects gradually over a long period of time. They say it does not reach its full effectiveness for about two months. Really, I kept waiting for it to help and believing that it would, but it never did. So I don't know how long it will take to completely eliminate it and its byproducts from my system, or what effect that will have.

Here's one resolution, though: From now on, if a physician wants to prescribe a drug for me, I will ask him or her about the possible side effects of withdrawing from the drug. (Ever try to shake your dependence on Effexor or some other antidepressant???) It takes some of us a long time to become wise about certain things. At least, I think I'm on my way.

Saddleup

Hi Saddleup

I would additionally ask a pharmacist about withdrawal, or any details about drugs per se. Pharmacists are specialist drug experts who understand drugs, rather than doctors who simply prescribe what usually works.

L