When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
Technology never sleeps, however, and we have better tools today for controlling spam than we did just a few years ago. So I am very excited and pleased to bring the forum back online.
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Best wishes,
Christine Kent
Founder
Whole Woman
wholewomanUK
February 14, 2011 - 4:37pm
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round ligament, genitofemral nerve and prolapse pain
Keep those fascinating thoughts going Christine. You're on fire!
I also experienced uterine prolapse which became increasingly painful triggered by pushing a car stuck in the snow, skiing & stressy lengthy journies. However my experiience was more an increasingly demanding pain and discomfort rather than a definate prolapse moment.
On a bit of a tangent - I know this may seem a bit strange but I have found it helpful to hear that some other women have felt/feel pain & discomfort with prolapse. Reasons include: 2 medical professionals have made light of my prolapse and made little or no attempt to guage my levels of pain or discomfort, before saying I was fit for work & by implication impling I was exaggerating my symptoms & thereby working the system. I have found it difficult to say "it hurts" & "I can't function normally" when some medical practitioners don't seem to ackowledge or want to hear that. Part of me feels guilty, begins to doubt myself & think 'they must be right' & 'I must do as they say'.
Helpful strategies so far include being kind to myself as if I was my best friend, being true to myself, keeping in touch with reality & telling it how it is. This feels like a gentle path to being grounded, powerful and assertive. The awfulness of having a prolapse is taking me into exploring some heroic new territory!
louiseds
February 15, 2011 - 9:30pm
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wagging his finger
I have a picture in my head of a very small WholewomanUK standing in the doctor's surgery, and a very tall, thin doctor with slicked down hair and a stethoscope around his neck looking down at her over the top of his spectacles, wagging his finger at her, and saying "you do not have pain from prolapse". WWUK replies in a very small voice, "but telling me that I don't have pain isn't making the non-existent pain feel any less worse."
Sigh ...
alemama
February 16, 2011 - 9:03pm
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I've had round ligament pain
many many times
but when people describe pain from prolapse it doesn't sound like my rl pain. For me it's a stabbing sharp pain if I get up too fast. Don't most people report an ache in the pelvis?
Let me ask you something, don't you think the rl are made of tougher stuff? They stretch so much to accommodate pregnancy (even twin and triplet) and then help manage the weight of the pregnancy and they even thicken.
The intra-abdominal force of heavy lifting can't touch the force of birthing!
It is an interesting theory and there has got to be an explanation for acute onset of prolapse. I wonder how easily visible these ligaments are on MRI or ultrasound....
granolamom
February 16, 2011 - 9:46pm
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very interesting
I've had round ligament pain, mostly in early pg, and the pain radiates down into my thigh.
I think the round ligaments are not in the same position when doing heavy lifting as they are during childbirth, and the forces are probably very different as well. also, and this is just going on my gut feeling and nothing scientific at all, but it seems to me that during labor and childbirth, there are so many things going on that have protective effects on the body. maybe the thickening during pg is what protects the ligaments during childbirth. those things would be absent during heavy work/lifting type exertion.
Christine
February 17, 2011 - 2:19pm
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round ligaments
Yes, I'm thinking the injury is in the inguinal canal - a closed space where nerve compression would be a greater possibility. Lifting with a flat back creates forces in opposition to what the pregnant body achieves. Maybe in time we'll have more data.
alemama
February 17, 2011 - 3:47pm
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anatomy lab
My dh just told me that he removed two rl in is 90 year old cadaver. She (his cadaver) had a hysterectomy and he said they were almost nonexistent- very short and brittle.
fab
February 17, 2011 - 6:59pm
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Back to the lab
Hi Alemama,
How did your husband's cadaveress' uterine round ligaments compare to those in her femur and elbow etc ?
clavicula
February 19, 2011 - 12:34am
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Just a thought
Far back when I had poor posture and retrovertd uterus, I also had terrible round ligament pain during my period and also ovulation. Guess I also had rl inflammation?
Thanks, Cristine for the info!
Liv
louiseds
February 19, 2011 - 10:13pm
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Wonderful cadavers
Hey Alemama
Let us know when there is another anatomy lab, so we can submit questions for you to pass on! ;-)
Cadavers are sacred gifts for learning. What a privilege it would be to learn from an actual person's body, that they no longer needed.
After hysterectomy what were the round ligaments attached to a the top end?
Louise