When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
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deb68
January 28, 2006 - 4:41am
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RE: discharge
Hi,
I have also have yellow discharge (I have bladder prolapse), I get it at the beginning of my cycle and the end towards when my period is due.
I have had tests done a couple of times to check for infection, and all tests have come back negative. My doctors say it can be "normal" for some people to get this and not to worry about it. My Naturopath says it isn't normal, and can be a type of thrush, she put me on a course of tablets that put the good bacteria back, something like yoghurt does, but this is in high dosages. It has certainly decreased in amount, but not totally gone away, it doesn't cause me any discomfort.
I think that I may have got this discharge before I had my son and prolapse, but of course, I wasn't always looking for these types of things then, so I can't be sure.
I hope this helps.
Deb
fraele70
January 28, 2006 - 7:07am
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RE: discharge
thank you. do you know exactly what kinf of ingredients are in the tablets?
bye
deb68
January 29, 2006 - 10:51pm
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RE: discharge
Hi,
The tablets are called "Ultra Flora DF" and contain:
Total live organisms 2.5 billion organisms
Lactobacillus acidophilus 12.5 billion organisms
Bifidobacterium lactis 12.5 billion organisms
The ones I take are only available from Naturopaths, but I know that there are similar ones available off the shelf.
Hope this helps.
Deb
fraele70
March 10, 2006 - 2:59pm
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discharge and progress update
Hi Deb,
thanks fou yr reply. I have tried for a month with a similar product, no big change, plus I have had some more spotting (blood before menses), so I guess I really need an appointment with the doctor.
By the way, my celes are often well outside me, no hurt, but discomfort, psychologically mainly, even though I have been using the posture for some months. I realize that the organs fall outside when I have to push a little more for a bm, and all the tips don't seem to help for the moment.
Sorry I sound a bit sad, I'll keep working.
ornella
Christine
March 11, 2006 - 3:16pm
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Hi Ornella,
Hi Ornella,
I’m sorry you’re having a difficult time and that you’re not seeing improvement. I couldn’t tell from your post, though, whether it’s only with straining that the prolapses protrude.
I can only encourage you to keep doing the bodywork. I guess I do sound a bit preachy sometimes, but it’s only because of my deep trust and awe in our natural design. What marvelous creatures our greatest-grandmothers were to have tried, tried, and tried again to finally succeed in standing tall and birthing the human race! And how AMAZING that half our “core” is horizontal, and the other half vertical!!
Our bodies have become unwound over many years. Winding them back up is a long, slow, and incomplete process, yet not without intrinsic rewards. I wonder who I’d be had I not made these lifestyle changes. Everyday is a new and wondrous day, and I think that feeling comes from the joy of being present in my body. It feels so good to sit straight and stand tall, and the creativity flowing from that seems absolutely endless. I’m constantly thinking about supportive clothing, non-furniture, and joyful ways to move. We are being given the opportunity to re-discover realms of existence closer to our humanity than our parents or grandparents ever knew possible or necessary.
There IS sadness in the loss of our body as we knew it. But we have so much!
Think of all our sisters who have had sacralcopopexy or sacrospinous ligament fixation. From what I can tell, the bottom of their spine is sewn PERMANENTLY into flexion, eventually obliterating the lumbar curve and forcing development of a hunched upper back (loss of one spinal curve demands compensation in another.) Most of those women will no longer be able to do all the things we take for granted – sitting crosslegged on the floor, kicking a ball in the air, or dancing the tango.
Go to your doctor and put the discharge issue to rest. For decades my periods were like clockwork. Then all heck broke loose in my forties. For one thing, I would start with a flash of blood and then nothing for several days before the bleeding would start in earnest. Then I would bleed and bleed and on occasion have SHOCKING flooding. I do think the endometrium begins to respond to hormones in sort of a patchy way so that one area bleeds and then another area bleeds, making it seem that the ordeal is going on and on. I really think someone needs to write a book – appropriately entitled “BLOOD” – where women describe their own menstrual experiences so that others can see how common some of this “dysfunctional uterine bleeding” really is.
Wishing you well,
Christine
fraele70
March 17, 2006 - 6:54am
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thanks for yr support
Hi Christine and everybody.
You are really supportive and I am very grateful for all the information and understanding found in yr site.
yes, the organs protrude usually when I have a bowel movement, a little if I don't need to push too hard, more if I find more difficult to do it, even though I try to follow yr tips not to strain. Then they seem to be "reabsorbed" a little inside, and I really feel like I am a doll with pieces coming apart and then being fixed.
Nonetheless, I am seeing improvements: my lower back doesn't hurt anymore, (it hurts though if I forget the posture for too long), I am learning to live with my prolapse, I lift my kids if it is the case, whereas I used to feel handicapped before learning the there is a universe of women of my same age, even younger, in my same condition.
I thank everybody for the contribution to everybody's well being.
ornella
rosewood
March 17, 2006 - 1:24pm
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Dear Ornella
It is psychologically really hard having the organs protrude out of your body. It sucks energy from you, physically and psychologically.
I wanted to make a couple of suggestions regarding having bowel movements. This is my own personal experience, but perhaps will help you. While I was pg with #3, I was working on the concept of opening to baby (during birth) while I was having a bm. I would try to totally relax my entire body, and breathe, letting the bm come down on it's own, no pushing whatsoever. With the out breath (through my nose) I would ever so slightly bear down from my chest (not push), allowing the sphincter to open.
I don't know if this makes sense, but it's enormously helpful now with bms and prolapse. It just sllips out, if I am patient. It's a sphincter, and responds well to relaxation. I totally relax my pelvic floor, no straining whatever.
I also think diet plays an important role here. A whole food diet is going to digest and come out easier I think. Eat as much fresh fruit and veggies as you can.
Finally, you might consider some alternative therapies, in addition to what you are doing. Consider finding a licensed accupuncturist who treats women with prolapses. Or perhaps physical therapy with someone who is experienced with prolapse.
I keep reading and re-reading Christine's book, and incorporating more of it into my lifestyle. As I do so, the level of healing progresses.
Blessings to you.