When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
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Christine
August 4, 2011 - 8:25pm
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realigning the pelvic interior
Hi Jerseygal,
This may be entirely too much exercise to begin with. You will be working with your condition the rest of your life, so perhaps slow down a bit and see if that helps. I think just sitting with a full (dare I say exaggerated?) lumbar curve might be good exercise for you right now, as sitting in this way pulls the urinary tract into proper alignment. Yikes!! I am reminded of one of our members insisting that sitting in this way for 30 minutes made her symptoms "much worse", which we had never encountered before. So, I must caution you to use your best judgment. However, shortly thereafter her cystocele vanished 100%, so sitting in WW posture didn't do any permanent damage.
It is true that we are re-modeling the pelvic interior and many women's symptoms worsen before they improve. Each woman must first gain a good grasp of true female anatomy and the reasons why we do these postural exercises. Then you can tailor the work according to your own individual needs and abilities.
Wishing you well,
Christine
louiseds
August 5, 2011 - 7:42am
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What is happening?
Hi Jerseygirl
There is a fine line between raising your chest and feeling your abdominal muscles become tighter, and actively tightening your abdominal muscles. If you are very exercise oriented your brain is probably programmed to tighten your tummy muscles all the time. Your challenge may be to regularly do tummy relaxation exercises to give your belly permission to relax. You might also be inadvertently engaging your buttock muscles or hamstring muscles when getting into WW posture. This will make your butt tuck under. This little spot, leaning up against the lower abdominal wall, is critical for allowing the bladder to move far enough forward. It you are slightly pushing it back all the time, or slightly tucking your butt, it may be aggravating your urethra.
It may also be that your brain thinks you have to urinate frequently. If your bladder is full every time you go then that's probably OK, but if it is only a bit of urine, then you may need to learn to ignore the signal to do, and try and hold on for a few more minutes each time until you are stretching out your toilet visits to just a few times a day. If your bladder is full it will also help to keep itself up and in. Think of a full bladder as a pessary that supports your uterus. A soft squishy bladder isn't going to do that job well at all. A good women's health physiotherapist will be able to monitor your progress on this bladder training if you don't feel confident to do it yourself. A malpositioned bladder or urethra will let you know it is unhappy. It could also be that you are not fully emptying your bladder when you urinate. This may leave stale urine in there. If you are not giving it a good flush from a full bladder stale urine might just stay in there. Try and fully empty once a day from a full bladder.
One thing to mention is that large amounts of urine can also be indicative of medical conditions such as diabetes. It might be worth getting checked out thoroughly. You could get a full bladder assessment, but that may not be necessary.
jerseygal
August 5, 2011 - 10:40am
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What is happening?
Thank you so much for such a prompt reply. I may be tightening my abdominal muscles too much, rather than comfortably holding my chest upward. I do empty my bladder completely (as shown in Christine's book and DVD). I have been doing that every time I urinate. I will try to hold on to a full bladder before emptying it so often. I know that I definitely do not have diabetes, since I get blood tests every three months from my doctor. I will try your suggestions, and I really appreciate your input.
jerseygal
August 5, 2011 - 10:46am
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Realigning the Pelvic Interior
Christine,
Thank you so much for such a prompt reply. I love your book and your DVD tape - I wish it was longer. I have been putting together a list of questions, and will arrange a telepone conference with you. Meanwhile, I will take Louiseds advice, and train my brain not to urinate everytime I have the urge, but to hold the bladder until it is full. The posture is becoming so normal for me. I will try to maintain it with a little less effort and more comfort. Thanks again, for all you have done. You are, indeed, the angel we all needed.
jerseygal
bad_mirror
August 5, 2011 - 1:52pm
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Diabetes insipidus?
This type of diabetes (diabetes insipidus) is associated with excessive peeing (polyuria), and has nothing to do with blood sugar (that's diabetes mellitus). Do these blood tests include levels of anti-diuretic hormone? Other tests include water deprivation and urinalysis for specific gravity (dilution). Just make sure your physician is aware of your polyuria.
passionflower
August 5, 2011 - 9:14pm
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Frequent urination problems to Jerseygirl
When I was first diagnosed with pop I was urinating 5-6 times a night.Soon as I was done I went to bed and felt like I had to go again.I went for an ultra sound to see what the heck is going on.Well I was told that my bladder is not emptying.So the Doctor gave me medication that was for woman that had sudden urge syndrome.Took it for not quite 2 weeks and started getting double vision.Never had incontinence ,just the constant urge.Well needless to say I would rather deal with the frequent urination problem than to have my vision impaired.So I took the advise of Doubtful who told me to empty my bladder like the picture in The Whole Womans Prolapse book by Christine Kent.I did this about 3 times a day to make sure I would not get a uti.Slowed down my caffiene and tried to do the WW posture as much as possible.The frequent urination problem is gone now .It took me about 2 months to see improvement.If I did not stop the medication the Doctor would have given the credit to the medication that he prescribed. The problem went away on it's own with the help of the book and the good advise from the great woman on this sight.
alemama
August 6, 2011 - 9:20am
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bladder irritants
You might like to check your diet for the *traditional* bladder irritants. Also, pay attention to your bowel. It could be that your intestines are putting pressure on your bladder and making you feel the urge.