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louiseds
October 27, 2011 - 8:54am
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Balm
Hi Surviving60
Have you viewed the video in Christine's kitchen, where she is making her own balm?
Christine's quantities are rather larger than I would make, but it is not hard to do when you have coconut oil and beeswax, which are quite readily available. I chose to buy red clover tincture from the pharmacy in a little dropper bottle so I didn't have to cook the tea up first. I have made my own red clover balm in small quantities by trial and error, and guessing how much red clover tincture I can fold into the balm without it coming out of solution.
I have made one in a lanolin base for use on my hands, where I get dermatitis, and I made a small jar of red clover cream which I use on solar keratoses on my face and arms. I have had one on my arm disappear completely after a few weeks of daily application. It had been there for years, and has left a little depression, so it seems that it was not just a surface lesion.
For the balm I didn't even have to mix the oil and wax in a saucepan. I just heated the lanolin in a water bath in the jar it was already in, and then added the tincture, and a bit of beeswax, and just stirred and stirred with a paddle pop stick until it cooled enough to hold the tincture in suspension and melt the wax in.
I made the red clover cream by just adding some red clover tincture to some Sorbolene cream in a little jar, and stirred it well to mix it in.
Just make sure you write down the quantities you use for each batch for future reference!
It is just cooking really. Don't be put off thinking it is too hard. Just do a small quantity at first so you can learn what you are doing, and how the materials behave.
Louise
Surviving60
October 27, 2011 - 9:09am
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Balm recipe
Yes, thanks Louise, I did watch the video. What you are describing sounds like a lovely project for a free afternoon.....unfortunately I already have a long to-do list and no free time ever. Perhaps one day....but for now, I do need something. And it needs to be something that's OK to put a little ways up into my body. Is this balm OK for that?
Christine
October 27, 2011 - 9:17am
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quantity
Just want to add that I only have 3 jars left of that batch I did a couple of years ago for the video. I sometimes give them away to friends and all the family uses it as a general salve-lotion. My little granddaughter keeps a jar in her room for her dry skin. I use it on arms and legs too. It lasts indefinitely (?) and it's so nice to have your own store and not have to go to the trouble to make it often.
Getting this wonderful balm made professionally is on our short-list of priorities. We need to sell more videos in order to make that happen, as we can only order it in huge quantities from the organic manufacturer. Spread the word about WW!
Christine
October 27, 2011 - 9:18am
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internal balm
Surviving...I push my uterus all the way up with this balm. Red clover and alfalfa are completely safe.
Surviving60
October 27, 2011 - 9:30am
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Burt's Bees?
Thanks Christine and Louise. I would love to see the Red Clover salve brought back to the WW store, and I'd also love to make a batch of my own, but that's not going to happen in the really near future. So I'm still looking for suggestions for a readily-available safe and soothing substance I can put up there. Did I see a Burts Bees product in one of Christine's older posts?
Christine
October 27, 2011 - 5:05pm
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balm
I use burt's bees lip balm, but I'm not sure of the ingredients in their salve. It used to be called "Farmer's Friend" and I still have several of those old canisters that I keep sewing supplies in. I don't recall ever recommending it. Hopefully we will hear from some of the others...
elleninala
October 27, 2011 - 5:49pm
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very easy balm
Here’s what I do:
1/2 c coconut oil
1/4 c olive oil
four 5/8” cubes of beeswax
melt together in microwave
It takes very little time to do and works beautifully.
Good luck!
Ellen
louiseds
October 27, 2011 - 8:02pm
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Is it safe?
Yes. Just remember that your vagina is actually a self-cleaning pouch. It does eventually go right into your pelvic interior via your well-sealed cervix, the uterus and the fallopian tubes, but it is a long and dangerous journey for any bugs or foreign substances. Even pregnant women are advised to swim, in public pools during pregnancy, without perceived risk of infection.
There are no guarantees of anything being 100% safe, but if you use good quality, clean ingredients and containers and tools, and are mindful of your personal hygiene, I cannot see a problem. The vulva is, after all, right next to the anus, and probably gets contaminated every day with small bits of faecal matter, which contain e coli, but we don't get e coli infections in either the vagina or urethra very often.
Louise
kiwigirl
October 27, 2011 - 10:38pm
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It really is easy to make a balm :-)
Hi Surviving60, just thought I would add my input, as I put off making my own balm for ages , it all seemed too much- when I had other things to cope with.But needs must, and so eventually I realised I had sweet almond oil to start with, sourced some organic coconut oil from a health and beauty shop, and then remembered I had several pure beeswax candles from a honey shop. They were clean as, and the wicks slid out, so In desperation I melted together those 3 ingredients and tested on back of a wooden spoon, added a few drops of aroma oil(not needed),it seemed runny but I poured into sterilised reused glass jars and voila, it set and was useable.
I recently made a balm using red clover flowers and following some of the recipes here but I must have the balance wrong , as once inside it feels like it semi sets.Whereas I have made 3 batches of my bliss balm and it works well for the inside.
I have since found beeswax pellets from the same honey shop, while travelling last year, so bought 7 of those.Will last ages.
Here is my recipe, as I don't know being, with being in a different country to Ellinala what 5/8ths inch would be (sorry bout spellings or amounts E, cant refer back to your post while typing this).
MY last batch of Bliss Balm used the following-
37gms beeswax
250gms coconut oil(melts when heated , set when cold)
200mls olive oil
2 drops of rose oil
Melt first 3 gently together on low heat until combined,take off heat, add rose oil(or your choice or none) and pour into sterilised jars.
This made 2 jars like say small marmite size and 4 tiny jars like jams given for breakfasts when travelling, about 2inch tall eg.My bigger jars are the width of my palm, if thats any help.
I used old makeup jars,little jam jars, anything not retaining smell.Washed in hot soapy water, rinsed well ,then popped on a tray and put into an oven at 130C for 5 minutes.I do same with lids.Then I carefully pour hot mix into jars and about 5 mins later put lids on.
To use, just dab on the clean finger that you insert with, up as far as you can(sorry never too tmi here haha).
Before I made this I had used Sylk-natural personal lubricant, from some pharmacies. www.sylkonline.com , there is a North American Distributor, I understand it is NZ product and has kiwifruit in it.
IT works ok I just prefer the one I make in comparison. Hth, good luck and dont be put off.Im so the same .xx
Surviving60
October 28, 2011 - 4:08am
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Thanks for all the ideas
Thank you so much to everyone who commented! Looks like I'd better go hunt down some ingredients and get to work.
louiseds
October 28, 2011 - 4:49am
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Setting inside you
Hi Kiwigirl
I think it set inside you because you put too much beeswax in it. Just try less. Remember that story about beeswax pessaries? They wouldn't be much good if they melted inside you, would they?
The other thing is that during our summer my Bliss Balm goes kind of granular. I think this is the beeswax coming out. The minimum temperature in our bedroom rarely goes over 30 degrees, but it probably has the opportunity to melt if luggage is sitting on the tarmac at an airport for half an hour, or it sits in a hot car for half a day. It is easy to reheat it and blend it in again.
Beeswax melts at 62-64 degrees Celcius , but virgin coconut oil melts at 24 degrees C, hydrogenated coconut oil at 36-40 degrees C. Maybe the coconut oil melts in summer, leaving bits of unmelted wax, and these are the granular bits?
kiwigirl
October 28, 2011 - 5:37am
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Thanks Louise!
Ahh thanks Louise, I forgot about the beeswax pessaries! I better melt it again and add a little coconut/almond oil.I gave it to hubby to use topically for his rash lol but I dont think he is!My bliss balm doesnt go very grainy, just runny ;-) Cheers!
alemama
October 28, 2011 - 6:05pm
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if you just wanna buy something
grab some raw coconut oil from the grocery store.
I like trying to keep the things I put on my body in the same category as things I put in my body.
Raw butter is good too.
Cold pressed oils work in a pinch.
Surviving60
October 28, 2011 - 6:50pm
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Coconut oil
Yeah - I do (for now at least....until I have a little more time on my hands). That sounds like a great idea. Especially after going to the drugstore (CVS) tonight and not finding a single thing I could bring myself to buy. Thanks alemama!