When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
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Christine
October 11, 2012 - 2:33pm
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on grandma duty...
Hi Recapture,
I've been babysitting my 5 year-old granddaughter all week while my daughter vacations in California. It's been such fun, but I am reminded once again why we have children when we are young! Making breakfasts, packing lunches, ironing clothes, doing hair, walking to and from school, helping with homework, fixing dinner, etc. etc. has put my life on hold. I have managed to finally get my monthly newsletter out and hold a few classes, but that's about it.
I have some important insights I want to share, so will try my best to come back to this thread and answer your questions later tonight when all is quiet.
Christine
Christine
October 11, 2012 - 10:50pm
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honey, kegels, etc.
Okay, I'm back...albeit running on two cylinders.
The honey does what estradiol does only in terms of feeding the natural microbial organisms in the vagina - mostly lactobacilli. When lactobacilli are present, the vaginal environment is moist and comfortable. Honey is not “estrogenic” in any way. I will write an FAQ to this effect, so it is always readily accessible. Red clover tea has beneficial phytoestrogenic properties that we’ve talked about time and again here. Also see my paper A Natural Remedy for Lichen Sclerosis in the Library.
Doing kegels on an inversion board will not effect the pelvic organ support system. Read my latest blog titled, A New Model of Core Stability. I was reminded again this week how very important it is that women make the paradigm shift outlined in the blog.
A 52 year-old woman came from out of state to take my hips class. She is a classic American beauty - long blond hair, very thin, pulled-in, athletic figure. She never had children and for all her life has been extremely active - biking, mountain climbing, racing, etc. Trouble started in her back a few years ago, which I am assuming is an inflammatory process that has resulted in fusion - I’m guessing of her sacroiliac joints. She walks bent forward approximately 45 degrees from vertical, seemingly dragging her hips behind her, one of which has rotated several degrees toward the back. Both hip joints are extremely painful, and may have progressed from osteoarthritis to an inflammatory arthritic condition as well.
She did have a history of a fall, which may have begun the process, but I have to wonder whether simply spending decades as a gung-ho athlete in the classic tucked-under-pulled-in posture might have been enough to establish inflammatory arthritis in her spine and hips. Her stomach was so tightly pulled in that it was virtually impossible to get her to relax it.
My point is that she has (before she became crippled) the type of figure we value most in Western society. Whether in tight jeans or a short skirt, her tiny waist and zero tummy are what we esteem most in models, actresses, etc. However, when that girlish figure (it might’ve been called a “boyish” figure in another era) was put under the tremendous loads of heavy athletics decade after decade, her pelvic joints greatly deteriorated.
In trying to teach her WW posture, I had a sense that she just couldn’t wrap her brain around the idea of pulling her stomach up instead of in. It was like the teeny, pulled in midriff and waist were so ‘her’ at this point that anything else just didn’t compute.
The irony is that she would’ve been even more beautiful in this natural posture, not to mention her torso properly seated over her hips and her joints protected from undue stress. It is such a subtle shift in our body-mind continuum, but one that has huge implications for many bodily systems.
Long ramble, and now I need to get some sleep, as dear granddaughter is on holiday from school tomorrow.
Bye for now.
Christine
Surviving60
October 12, 2012 - 7:04am
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Great idea Christine
I do think it's a great idea to put the honey info somewhere very easily accessed. It seems whever it comes up, we are always searching for the best past threads on the topic, and searching on the forum brings up such an enormous number of hits that it can take awhile to find something unless you have bookmarked it previously. A new person coming on the site would not even know where to begin. Thanks - Surviving
[PS - inspiring hips story. Today, just like every other day of my life, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for your contribution to our health. Cannot wait for the book.]
Heavenlyflower
October 12, 2012 - 12:47pm
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honey, kegels, etc
Hi Christine, I have a question and it is, I've been using the cultured honey now for 3 days and yesterday I was so uncomfortable it feels like burning on my vulva I had a hard time sitting had to eventually lay down finally about 11 p.m. went into the shower to wash the area went to bed, just woke up and it is pretty much the same can you tell me what I can use to make it comfortable, have you had anyone else tell you after using honey that it affected them like me?, since my uterus hang out I rub the honey on it, and not at the top of my vagina please tell me what I'm doing wrong?. I did use a little more than a finger tip.
Mahalo, and much ALoha
Heavenlyflower.
fab
October 12, 2012 - 7:57pm
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Honey
Dear Heavenly Flower,
If I remember correctly you have complained about vulva burning before. The use of the honey is to try to restore the acidity of the vagina to avoid infection. With the inflammation pre-existing, I don’t think it would have had anything to do with the honey.
Inflammation of the vulva may result from allergic reactions to substances that come in contact with the vulva such as soaps, creams, synthetic pants and perfumes. I know you said previously that you use a mild soap, but if a mild soap has perfume, it could still be the culprit. (In these cases glycerine soap is usually recommended.) And that you use a good toilet paper, but again some of them have bleach residues or a perfume. It would be worthwhile checking them out again. Otherwise, you are possibly looking at dermatitis which we all know is a difficult thing to shift once having developed it, or candidiasis.
Christine has suggest the used of diluted apple cider vinegar as an antifungal if it appears to be a yeast infection. But you can only do this for a brief time, as you don’t want to dry the area out. With the uterus so low in the vagina, this also has an irritation effect. You really need to have the uterus higher. Irregularity I find to be the number one cause of drying the vulva area.
But perhaps you should go back to your doctor?
Heavenlyflower
October 12, 2012 - 10:55pm
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Honey
Hi Fab,thank you for your answer I have never complained of burning before, I did complain of bleeding, but this that is going on is not itchy it feels like I would think diaper rash feels like it hurts and it feels like burning, and you may have a point , about synthetic pants because I do wear a poise pad and depends adult diapers when I do go out, and I've been doing a lot of sewing and it has been really hot and I've been very sweaty, and my pants have been extra wet.
So now with all that said what can I use to get some relief?
Mahalo and much Aloha
Heavenlyflower
fab
October 13, 2012 - 3:09am
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Is it possible
to leave your pants off from time to time? Otherwise a skin moisturizer and barrier ointment such as baby's zinc cream, petroleum jelly, or vitamin A and D cream may help. If it is due to Candida you may need an anti fungal cream, and if it is caused by bacteria you will need an antibiotic cream. Use the bare bum and zinc cream first.
I used to put babies bare bum in the sun, but realize this may be impractical.
It's hard to dispense with the poise pad and adult diapers, but are they cotton, as cotton will breathe.
better. So you were able to stop the bleeding. I'm so glad.
Surviving60
October 13, 2012 - 8:57am
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Barrier
I too have had good luck with an occasional application of zinc baby rash ointment. However, I don't need it often and I'm not putting it directly on the cervix, which is not all that low (I have 'celes mainly). I've never been sure just how high up one can safely go with baby rash stuff.... - Surviving
louiseds
October 16, 2012 - 2:11am
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Is it safe?
Well, I figure that if it is safe enough for a baby's bottom, it is safe for an area where a man's penis can go. Do we worry about whether it is safe to have penis-in-vagina sex? I don't think so (as long as there is plenty of lube when oestrogen is low).
;-)