New here, early utirine prolapse?

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Hi ladies

I’ve been digging to old post on this website to find some answer for all the symtomp i have, bit about me im mom of 4 and 36 years old originaly from sydney but currently not living there.

I cant get my mirror away yet, yesterday again i checked and still that bulge is there just right at the entrance of my vagina, its desent from the top wall of the vagina, size walnut with wrinkles on it..is this cystocele? i didnt see any pink tissue that bulge or feeling water ballon around it, so i have no idea what is this bulge, also

I’ve been cheking my cervix lately and it feels low, when i stand or laydown,bear down squat i can touched it,feel around it and its only took my midlle finger to get to the cervix sometime less than that say took 2 nikle of my midlle finger, and I feel like my cervix postition is at the back of my vagina, isint cervix and uterus suppose to be at the top? i dont know what is low cervix,high cervix,midlle cervix position,if i can feel my cervix and feel around it , is that mean im on the early stage of utirine prolapse?

I dont leak urine,not constipated, have good BM, sometime frequesnt urinate but feel like blader not emptied properly and lower back pain that made me change position when i sit to ease the pain of my lower back, i start doing kegel and would like to try WW posture soon.

Im trying to gather info as much as i can, before again going to GP or OB and there is not single one UroGy here in my city and seems like proplapse and incontinence are so taboo to discuss and to talk about openly here, ohh right now im in midlle east if that makes sense, i wanna smash that taboo-ness.

I Went to GP and OB before but coudlnt find answer, they refere me to OPD, i did lot of scan on the pelvic and tailbone, US abdominal and transvaginal and x-ray its showed nothing everything is normal no prolapse,no cyst,no fibriod,no endo, no UTI.

Hopefully i can educate myself about prolapse before again going to the GP or OB to get diagnosed properly.Last time the OB check me just frankly took less than a minute,she had me lay down and check down there and said "no prolapse" well i know from what i read that's not how you do pelvic exam right?

Im still fighting to find answer, i hate the feeling of not knowing.

thanks you for reply and let me to vent and pls forgive me for the TMI

Bananabread.

welcome :-).
First of all I want to say, that Kegels don't work and sometimes they make things worse. So please read Christine's articels. She described why they don't work and she found a new form of Kegels that really can help with prolapse.
When the bulge you see is wrinkled, it should be a cystocele. What you can see is the front wall of your vagina. And not be able to empty your bladder properly can be a symptom of that.
I really think you should read more of the threads here and start with posture. That's the most important thing to manage a prolapse. It can help you emptying your bladder, too. There is a lot of very helpful information. Read more and than come back and ask some more questions.
You're not alone ;-).
Best wishes
Butterfly

Yeah, smash it, Bananabread, but I suggest that the Middle East is not the best place to do it publically!

You seem to have a good handle on what is happening in your vagina. With your cervix coming out of the back of your vagina it sounds like you have a retroverted uterus. This is very common, and many people think it causes lower back pain.

It is hard to find accurate pictures on the Net of the degree of retroversion possible, but mine was so retroverted that the cervix came out of the back wall and pointed straight upwards. I have never seen a picture of this but I know it was the case because I could feel it. It may not have been as apparent to a gynaecologist examining me. The tampons told the story. ;-)

Try these illustrations, http://chestofbooks.com/health/body/osteopathy/Manipulative-Surgery-Pelv... . Scroll down for the illustrations. The adhesions idea is an interesting one but I am not sure about the accuracy of the accompanying text. It does give you an idea of the variation that is possible.

BTW, mine flipped to normal presentation a few years before menopause, and my last couple of years of menstruation was so much less uncomfortable than my earlier reproductive life.

As you have had four babies it would not be unexpected to have a lower cervix. Some degree of prolapse seems to be normal once our bodies have had a baby and 'matured'. ;-)

Nobody really has a definitive cause for it, but I think forty or so years, from early teenage years, of holding my tummy in and tucking my butt under probably allowed my uterus to fall backwards, and started the prolapse process before I had even finished growing. It went back to retroverted after the births of my three babies. Had I known about WW posture and encouraged it back to anteverted after each birth, it may have repositioned itself much earlier. Enter Whole Woman posture about nine years ago, when my youngest was 17. It took years to flip forward, but it eventually did.

Louise

Thank you

Butterfly and Louise for replying my post, yes itis really really ease my "heaviness" knowing that im not alone in this.

I finally got my diagnosed, im still digging for more info and also still learing and educate myself about POP and how to control them.

Stay happy and healty ladies :)

I was doing a keyword search and your post came up BananaBread. I'm not sure if you are still posting or reading, but I thought I would throw out some of my ideas. I feel this subject is so taboo that even doctors don't bring up the subject. You can read about my experience at the GYN in my previous posts. The GYN that I went to didn't spend one second explaining to me about prolapse. She said I had a mild prolapse. "Mild" meant nothing to me and I think that it was insulting. I'm quite a bit older than you, in fact, I am old enough to be your mother, and never has a GYN, Primary Care Physician, or Urologist mentioned the word prolapse after the time that I finished having children. As for the mirror, I think that the women on the forum that have nursing backgrounds are probably more use to the pelvic anatomy because they had to know it to do their job. The rest of the population is unknowledgeable about the pelvis. I wish now that after I gave birth that someone had said to me to take a look at myself with a mirror once in a while, so that I would know the difference between a healthy pelvis and one that was prolapsing. I compare this to finding out that my sister had breast cancer. Even though I had been told to do a monthly breast exam, I would only do one when I had a mammogram appointment or right before a doctor's appointment, just to make sure that I could answer the question, "Do you do breast exams", with a "Yes". Now, I do the breast exam all of the time.

I too, can see wrinkled tissue after urinating, but I can see the pink bulging tissue right before urinating. I don't know enough about women's anatomy to say what is happening, but I do see an immediate change.

I think that the WW posture has helped me with the frequent urination. Before I came to this site I didn't even know how to completely empty my bladder, even though I had many appointments with a urologist last summer. What is that about? We can't even get basic instructions on how to take care of ourselves. I just thought that I had the overactive bladder feeling because I was irritated from laundry soap or soap that I used to bathe with. I eliminated all kinds of things from my diet and I still had overactive bladder.

Warm regards

Yes I am still here, checking everyday sometime even few times day but most of the time i didnt login.

I finally got diagnosed around 2 months ago I think,Obgyn said i had mild stage POP well not sure about the stage but from what ive been reading here it could be stage 2 as i can see the bulge covering the entrance and also when i sit on the loo to have BM i can see something like round and soft hmm could be uterus?

Anyway no matter what stage of my Cysto,Recto and Uterine prolapse are I dont care anymore really, all i care now jow I am going to manage these POP,I am still doing lot reading mostly frm.this site, i am watching my.posture,exercise and try to be carefull with the way I move..no more tuck and suck for me...

I am sorry about your experience about taboo in POP, you know sometime here when i visit the doc and try to open tge subject they just bla bla bla....uselesss..

I am emotionally better now, though still scared sometime but frm what I read,learn.and do Cristine's work demand pstient and comitment and I am trying hard to do it...I am determind to heal.

I read Louise history and also Cristine letter this month and its all so inspiring..I.wanna be one if them...

Thanks for your reply, stay happy and healthy....

I am sorry about the spelling ladies..typing from my phone.