Reading about Pushing Organ back into place

Hi tobey,
Yes, we ladies with uterine prolapse will bend over, and with clean fingers, give our uterus a shove up. We also jiggle bent over followed by firebreathing. This does help some, but the real benefit is once the organs are moving in the right direction, is to get right into posture to keep them there; otherwise, the uterus just slumps back down. If your cervix is not sticking down or out of the opening of the vagina, I wouldn't worry about it. Once you get your book and start doing the reading, this will all become so much more clear for you.

What really matters here is that we get our organs moving in the right direction, up over the pubic bone into the lower belly. We do this with the posture work, the whole woman walking, the exercises in the book and on the DVDs, jiggling and firebreathing. It is a process we can all benefit from and will be doing the rest of our lives. Just remember that when you are up and about hold your body in the whole woman posture as much as you can.
Many of us don't think of our prolapse in stages, because our organs are always on the move. Personally, I think of it in terms of good days and bad days, with the good outweighing the bad in symptom management. If I can keep my cervix well inside me and don't have that bulgy feeling, I am having a good day, and that is what makes this work worthwhile doing.

I want to know how much reversal can I expect?
I have a bulging cystocele - bulges out of the floor of the vaginal canal - this part of the cyctocele is a fairly recent development. I know what this is because first I am an RN and I am one of those people who is very in tune to my body. No doctor has diagnosed this but I am right. I just don't always know where to turn for answers. I was told many years ago to get a hysterectomy because strange cells devoped on my cervix - they was cauterized off. I was told this may become a cancer issue. The doctor wanted to do the hysterectomy so I could get on with my life and forget the internal problems those "unnecessary" organs may cause me eventually. I had to argue with my husband as well as the doctor I had seen at that time. Of course, all the big guns came out including - 'you'll heal faster and better the earlier you get this done.' Finally, I decided I'd do some research before committing to anything - especially since nothing was really hurting. Sometime between 1986 and 1988 I came across a book about hysterectomies - It was not an endosement and it gave me some answers - I knew I did not need to panic or have immediaste surgery. I quit seeing doctors unless necessary.
I don't seem to be experiencing the pain or discomfort with my cyctocele so many of my sisters are telling about (?? it may be the high pain tolerance I have and I just don't know I'm in pain). I also have not experienced any bladder infections or dryness.
But.......I do not want to accept this bulge as normal - I want to do whatever it will take (except surgery) to get it back - or at least - close to where it belongs.
I came across the Whole Woman website accidently and immediaterly ordered the Whole Woman Bundle and the Whole Woman Yoga Bundle. It hasn't arrived yet, but I have been so anxious to get started that I have been practicing when I sit and walk to push my core over the pelvic bone. I actually like that posture.
I want to thank you all at the WW website for all I read and the videos - I feel I now have a new positive direction to work with on my cyctocele. I couldn't believe the other sites that were pushing the mesh.
Thank you, thank you, thank you......

Hi granny,
It sounds like you have this pretty well figured out so far. Good for you for doing the necessary reading--that can really help in better understanding what is happening.
Many of us, especially those of us who are older, don't have expectation of complete reversal of our prolapse. We are more concerned with symptom management which the whole woman work can provide us. As well, many don't have pain with this, maybe some soreness or achey feelings, back ache, incontinence, etc., but sometimes it is just the bulge making its appearance. The bulge can be very disconcerting, but I have found with the work, that I can minimize that feeling. Some women say they can get to the point of feeling symptom free. It depends on many factors including age, past surgeries, bowel issues and diet, degree of prolapse, number of prolapses, which kind you have, and the work you put into whole woman practices.
I think you are on the right road and wish you the best.

Hi Granny - I'm with you when it comes to doctors.....I have been doing this work going on 4 years and I have yet to visit a doctor for a formal diagnosis. I know this might be important to some women, maybe to rule out other problems, so I'm not advocating it for everyone. But the sad fact is that doctors don't have anything useful to offer in this particular area, and many of their recommendations will do more harm than good.

This is management, not a cure. I started at 60 so I know there is only so much lumbar curvature I can restore from this point on. You learn to manage your symptoms and to live well with them. Once I understood the concepts and was better able to visualize what was going on down there as I moved throughout my day, I lost my fear. You think that you can't live happily with the bulge, but....well, you can. It will not limit your activities. It will come and go, and you'll have the tools to deal with it. - Surviving

I've had a hysterectomy, Lynx bladder sling, and a transvaginal sacrospinous ligament fixation with a rectocele repair. I still am bothered by my original problem. My bladder drops very low and bulges out of my vagina. I've read posts about using a pessary and I'm going to see my doctor ASAP about one. To be too graphic I've been wondering if there is something I could use to push it up. My doctors most recent comment was "I guess I could just tack it up." I NEVER had urine leakage. Am well past menopause. I did have issues with bowel movements. Help and advice please.

Hi florida and welcome. You can and should ask your doctor about trying a pessary, though he seems more interested in doing more surgery (please just say no! It isn't going to help). The problem with pessaries is that they can be very tricky to fit, even with the most patient and sympathetic doctor on the planet. And they do not work for probably the majority of women who try them.

Although your pelvic dynamics are greatly and permanently altered, you still need to try and keep the bladder, bowel and vaginal vault as far FORWARD in the relaxed lower belly as you can. This is what Whole Woman posture is all about. Hysterectomy and other repairs will make this more difficult, but it's what you have to try. Do some more reading, we do have several post-hyst members who report progress. Take it slow though. Do some reading around the site.

If this doc won't even try to fit you for a pessary, find one who will, and give it a try. And look into the posture correction. At the end of the day, it's your best hope for keeping things from getting worse. - Surviving

Still hopeful! Thanks for the welcome.

Just a question...will laying on stomach bother it.

I lay on my stomach for my back so I sometimes don't know if how I'm laying is hurting ....or hindering trying to get into a good posture. I guess since my bulging disc has been around that's how I've been laying so I'm not sure how to sit anymore... I am definitely going to order the books and DVD's to learn more. I've noticed I don't feel like I have to urinate as frequently...not sure why?? Just seems out of character for me.

Hi dizzydee,
It doesn't matter what position we lie down in, because the pressure is off our organs. I actually stomach sleep quite a bit. It is when we are up and about that we must be aware of how we are holding our bodies so we can keep our organs from falling back and into the vaginal space.
Hope your doctors visit goes well. Come back and tell us how it went, but don't take everything she says as complete truth. Doctors only know what they have been taught. She will probably examine you lying down, which will make your prolapse less apparent. Ask her to look at it while you are standing. And, she may want you to bear down. I would refuse to do that if I were you. That is not good for prolapsed organs. Not trying to scare you. Just be kind of prepared for the possibility of these things that other women went through.
Surgery, pessaries, kegels, or just do nothing is usually what the ladies report back, so be prepared for these also.
Wish you the best.

thank you...I was wondering about bearing down...something that we shouldn't be doing and here the doctor would want me to.....I will remember that. I'll stand but not bear down. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

You are a life saver for me....I don't know what I would have done if I hadn't found this site!!!

It is a great site! I felt the same way when I found it. Christine and her family have done such a wonderful service for all of us in creating it, and I am thankful every day that it is here for us.

I took another walk ...didn't walk like a duck. Tried to keep belly out and shoulders straight down. felt very tired after walk! I guess I will have to work on the posture. I will purchase books and stuff on Wed. pay day for me!!! Looking forward, can't wait to get started! Can't thank everybody enough for all the advice....don't feel so alone....and feel like I have "sisters" to get me through this.