When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
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Midwest Star
October 18, 2006 - 3:53pm
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On second thought...
Do you suppose that the nurse practioner was being dishonest, and only giving me pessary sizes she knew would fail- just to drum up surgical business for the urology clinic?
Has anyone ever heard of someone being unable to retain a pessary?
Titus2mom
October 18, 2006 - 4:49pm
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unable to retain a pessary
I was fitted for a pessary about five years ago and one did fit and offered me some relief to my uterine prolapse. But after the birth of my fourth child, I have been unable to retain a pessary. They simply don't stay put and come right out, though the doctor tried many different styles and sizes. I know my prolapse has gotten worse and I suppose that is why. Though my doctor is sugggesting that I have surgery, I am choosing not to. I need to look into getting Christine's video and book for some help.
Christine
October 18, 2006 - 6:24pm
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motivations
I think the medical system is just dumb-struck and at a loss as to alternatives and palliative treatments. Surgery is all they've known for many generations.
I'd venture to guess very few of us can retain a pessary. I think it's a design problem as well. Who but men would've fitted the vagina with donuts and cubes???
Midwest Star
October 19, 2006 - 2:07pm
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I'm not alone...
Thanks for the replies. I didn't like the paranoid turn my brain was taking. I'm going to assume the NP made a good faith effort at fitting. I'll be fine without one, I'm sure. That darn doughnut one HURT going in!
edit- It was kind of interesting as to what she had to say, though. It was her opinion that the cervix had descended too far so as to make pessary use impossible.
Jenstubb
October 27, 2006 - 10:01pm
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On second thought
Hi. I had a similar experience with a nurse but when the doctor finaly did the insertion the pessary fit. I find that if I lay down and insert it gets in more properly. Maybe she just really wasn't inserting it correctly. If you are able try seeing a urogynecologist who specializes in it. I use a pessary just when I exercise and I tell you it is such a relief. It gave me back my active life. I hope that it works out for you :)
neety41
October 31, 2006 - 9:14am
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I don't understand
I had a hysterectomy at 38, 3 years ago and its best thing i ever did! Just had a rectocele repair too, I personally would not mess about with ring pessaries, herbs or whatever else I hear about. Get the surgery I say and get on with life!!!
Christine
October 31, 2006 - 9:42am
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we understand
I think you made your point, Neety...thanks for sharing. The urogynecologic literature is very clear that you are now 500% more likely than the general population to be undergoing surgery #3 at some point. With each operation your body is less able to manage intraabdominal pressure, which means your organs (bladder, rectum, and intestines) continue to be moved toward your pelvic outlet with every breath you take.
Luisa
October 31, 2006 - 12:55pm
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pessary
Hi , I was going to the gyn. every 3 months to remove and insert the pessary. he wasn't to clear about me trying to do it myself at home. So, I made an appointment with the midwife and sho taught me how to do it. Put right leg up on a chair while standing up and I foun it very easy. Now I take the pessary out every 3 days and I'm fine . It beats going to the gyn. every 2 or 3 months. That will avoid infections . luisa
Annabel
November 1, 2006 - 12:15am
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pessary
I tried two sizes and they didn't stay in. After research into surgeries I came across this site. I actually bought Christines video a few years ago and do my best to stay fit, although have had to give up much of my active life for activities that keep my bladder pressure at bay. Are there any other alternatives other than surgery, or an alternate to the pessary that can get me back to my old life style?
I'm so encouraged by this dialogue with other women with the same issues.
I was told recently by a urologist that a hysterectomy would give the surgery a better chance and the Burch procedure with the mesh to support the organs was the best way for me to go. I really have a hard time buying into this. I know they are making advances in these types of surgeries, but I can't imagine having this foreign material in my body and harder to imagine that my body will function as well as it does now. I'm healthy otherwise, at 54 and have had two children naturally, and do not take hormones, although have resorted to vagefem (in pill form vaginally) which I'm not real comfortable about as I've never taken HRT, the pill, or have ever had a hysterectomy. Have been so discouraged that the choices I've been given are surgery or a pessary. Sooo depressing.