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Mishek
November 12, 2011 - 11:21pm
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A purpose to suffering
Hello Ivonush, I read your posts with interest and emotion- tears welling up in me when hearing of your endurement to such a harsh period in your young innocent life and i'm so sorry that you had to undergo such an awful experience and i want to give you a big hug. I can hear that you are a strong person and are doing well in life considering what happened to you. You seem very intelligent and able to take positive steps to help yourself. Well done Ivonush!! You will get there with your persistance i'm sure. We are only given what we can handle.
Here is my belief: There is always a reason for our suffering - when we
are aware of this we are more able to sustain our lot in life. At the end of our physical existance we are all accountable for the way we played out our life. I believe we all choose the role we play here on earth whilst still in spirit. Some may say ''I would never have chosen the life i'm living now, but we (our lower self) does not do the choosing, it's the higher self that chooses as it knows what role to choose according to the lessons we have to learn. So to make my suffering bearable, i always look at the big picture and know that we are merely actors on the stage of life playing out our part. What better way to gain experience than to live through it. The more we grow and learn the more wisdom we build so we can help others who are where we used to be, so therefore suffering is never wasted it's all for a reason. When we are suffering the most, is when we are growing and learning the fastest. Out of suffering comes wisdom and a spiritual refinement.
Throughout my life i have come to realize that everything needs to make sense in order to be true. Some of you may share my beliefs and some may not. I respect everybody's views. These are just mine.
Ivanush it is only early days for you - give it time and posture and everything will improve. I havn't been here that long myself but already my pop is not an issue any more and hasn't been for some time now.
I am self diagnosed rectocele and something else in the front, not sure what the front is probably bladder or uterus, never had problems with bladder so it could be the u, but both front and back improved together.
I did have Coccyx pain for a long time but it seems to have gone. i haven't conciously noticed it lately. wishing you all the very best on your pop journey. Mishek
kiwigirl
November 13, 2011 - 1:57am
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I second that Mishek & Hi to Ivonush
Such a good post Mishek, that is how I have come to look upon life and the purpose of our soul in it's physical earthly body.The reason we are here and what we have to learn.I said this many times to my father before he passed away.This by email as we were by that time in different countries, he had gone back to his homeland late in life and died there.Years of not communicating and that's another story , to say we became friends towards the end of his life and I feel his purpose had been fulfilled and he left at peace with life.Through our hardships we learn empathy , gain knowledge, love and forgiveness.
Ivonush I too have been following your posts and feel for you, and also send you a big hug (((IVONUSH))).I would like to recommend a book to you ,if you have not already read it....by Louise Hay called "You Can Heal Your Life".A friend lent me her copy when I was goign through a tough phase , I ended up buying my own copy and still like to read pages of it.Louise also tells of her young life and interefence and the cancer she later got and cured herself without medical treatment as such.Your library should have it , if you want to have a look first. In my copy her life story is in the last chapter.All the best xx
ikam
November 13, 2011 - 4:52am
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feeling lost
Mishek,
yes, it is only early days for me and I often feel lost.
I try to do something I never did in my life (exercices, body posture). I was always told that there is a medication for everything, that I have to trust doctors. And I have started taking Estriol, but I feel nauseous even with 1/4 dose!
I try to trust others like you who have gone through the journey before me, but as I still have symptoms and it is hard to believe that it will change. Logically I know I cannot revert anything quicker...
So, I am left with trusting people who did it, who say that their pain is in the past...
Yes, I am strong person, but I have times when I want to give up, and then get up again...
Ivonush
ikam
November 13, 2011 - 5:10am
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you can heal your life...can I?
Hi,
I read this book many years ago...I believe that the illness itself brings solution...But this is my logic...
I am so often in my emotional mind, panicking that "I will never feel better", feeling that "my body betrayed me"...I don't recognise what is going on...I used to go with my BM once a day, in the morning, perfectly "on time". Now my bowels act strangely, and my body "collects" stool, instead of getting rid of it. This is so weird. I always feel strange when it happens...
Also my menstrual cycle is out of order...
As I said in my previous post, I feel lost...
Sorry, i wish I could write something more positive, but I did not have a good day yesterday and I don't know why...if I understood what happens and when I would feel more in control, but...
Thank you for your support...
Maybe around half a year from now I will be able to say- it works! For me it is still like going to the journey which I never planned. I borrowed a map from others and try to believe that they know the directions...
Ivonush
ikam
November 15, 2011 - 3:25am
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It seems that the purpose of
It seems that the purpose of my suffering lies in my reconnection with the female in me...
I still don't like the pain, though...
But I try to learn, I have read many posts here, I have started reading Christine's book. I feel more connected than ever to a wider context of a woman's world. It is not about "just me" as a woman (something I am only discovering), but something much wider, deeper- connection to "woman's archetype"...
I go through different emotions, such as exitement (at last I belong!), anger (why nobody told me, taught me this before?), despair (why me? am I going to be in pain all my life?), sadness (I lost so many years in my life), happiness (I feel more whole person), etc.
I want to survive the pain and regain my wholness...
Ivonush
gardengirl
November 15, 2011 - 4:32am
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the purpose of suffering
Sometimes life does seem to throw some really mean learning curves at us. i like to think of a bonsai tree - treated pretty mean really- deprived of space, trimmed roots yet they are so admired for their beauty and form. Or like many splendid landforms that are created from countless eons of wind, rain, sleet snow, driving winds. then we find an object of great beauty.
I know that having developed a prolapse, I have learnt so much from it about me as a woman and as a person. It has taken me on journeys, I would never have been on- such as talking to people and for this forum full of so many people who care and share.
Surviving60
November 15, 2011 - 7:04am
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Timing
Ivonush, I think I recall a post in which you observed that the prolapse came along just at a point in your life when things were finally starting to fall into place. I know that happened to me, and probably to many others. Maybe it's all part of this shared experience. Something that comes along to smack you in the face just when you think you have a grip on your life! I do believe it has made me a stronger person, and more aware of myself and my body's needs and messages. Relax and go easy on yourself. I read Christine's book like a bible. It is on my nightstand and I dip into it regularly whenever I need to reinforce that connection that we all share.