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Aging gracefully
November 28, 2012 - 2:03pm
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Hi, I feel like I am in the
Hi, I feel like I am in the same boat with you. I noticed my symptoms around the same time you did, and I was in shock and disbelief at first; now I am just trying to accept this as part of my life. When I can get things to go back up inside a bit more and do the exercises that I have found on this site, I feel ok. But, if I am on my feet too long, everything starts pulling and pressing, and even burning. My best time is in the morning, but by midday, I get discouraged again. I am finding the butt in the air thing to be very comforting. Can't believe I said that.
Just wanted to tell you that I know how you feel. There seems to be a lot of information here to help us, but like you, I think the book and DVD will really get us on our way.
Wishing you the best.
Surviving60
November 28, 2012 - 6:29pm
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Get moving
Yes Petrified, I agree that you aren't getting enough movement from the Elders DVD. Lots of mindful posture, lots of walking in posture, exercising properly when you can, jiggling and firebreathing to help suck the organs forward, and protecting your lumbar curvature all the time....this is what will get you results. Train the organs forward and you should feel improvement with the pressure. But remember, this is on-going. We have to work at this all the time, and fortunately, it will become habit if you work at it. Best of luck to you (and your mom) - Surviving
NFP
November 28, 2012 - 7:32pm
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Whole Woman Posture
I don't know if this will help but I have found a sports bra to be very helpful in maintaining the posture, shoulders down, breasts high and stomach relaxed.
The back of the sports bra gives me a strong support across the upper portion of my back that helps me to keep my lumbar curve in place. I could see the difference right away when I wear a regular bra. I don't stand as straight and slouch more not very helpful for a prolapse.
fab
November 28, 2012 - 10:07pm
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interesting
This is interesting NFP. I imagine the sports bra gives you support to the weight of your breast distributed over a wider area of your upper torso rather than the simple once around the ribs and a pull on the shoulders of the ordinary bra.
The Australian Institute of Sport have approved a berlei bra (sports bra). The advertisement’s illustration shows the shape of a traditional bra front and back. A web site talks about its “maximum cup coverage with flat seams to minimise movement. Fantastic support with mesh panels on the band for easy ventilation.” They claim it will reduce breast bounce by up to 50%. They also claim the stretch of the unsupported 12B bust can bounce up to 8cm. (We talked about this before under “bouncing breasts” in regards to Julie Steele from the University of Wollongong and Dr Joanna Scurr from the University of Portsmouth). “This may cause ligaments to stretch, and may lead to breast sag.” You will not have missed all the mays.
Your inspired use concentrating on better support and so better facility at WWposture is a more desirable outcome, as I see it.
Best wishes, Fab
louiseds
November 29, 2012 - 4:56am
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'approved'
Maybe it stands up to its claims but 'approved' probably means endorsed, which means the female athletes may get a good deal on bras and the AIS may get a small % of total sales. If you feel that your posture it better, then maybe it is.
There are a number of harness type devices for improving posture. Some literally pull the shoulders back and down. The musculature will fight these if they are too strong and attempt to pull the shoulders up and forward again when it is removed.
I saw a rather novel lightweight harness yesterday on Google, with an electronic alarm that would sound if it pressed too hard on the thoracic curve, as an audible reminder to straighten up. I have no idea if it would work in practice, and I can't find it today. Sorry. Perhaps these devices could play a part, but it really is just a matter of training your body. It is about raising your own awareness of where your body is in space.
Keep talking about it.
Louise
NFP
November 29, 2012 - 3:26pm
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WWPosture and Support
Hi...
A little more about my sports bra. It is very inexpensive. (under $5.00 US dollars). The brand name is Fruit of the Loom in the US. It is made very soft - 95% cotton, 5% Lycra or Spandex (very stretchy material). The straps are wide and attached in a wide criss cross pattern in the back. There are no hooks or snaps. I am smalled boned and have a c size cup. For me it give a real good support across the back and the straps do not cut into my shoulders. The most important thing for me is that it helps me to maintain the WW posture. There are other devices made especially for posture that might be more helpful but mine was such an inexpensive discovery I wanted to share it.
fab
November 29, 2012 - 5:02pm
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Thanks NFP
It does sound like an excellent bra. The cotton for a start, the softness and stretch. With the synthetics I seem to build up static. I especially like wide straps. I hate underwire, and fill and snaps and such can be irritating if they rub. I find where I am that often the cheaper the bra, the more comfortable. I have not had great success with the sports bras here, but I have noticed recently that if I buy a size larger (in the regular bra) they fit more comfortably, so I will try the sports bras in the larger size. No, honestly I haven’t put on extra weight; I think their sizing is smaller. I am a bit heavy in the breast and a bit more support with a wider spread of stress points sounds a good idea.
Best wishes, Fab
louiseds
November 30, 2012 - 7:48am
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Sports bras
I have wondered about the design which has a crossover, or the straps clipped together at the back. Sure, the straps show under many summer tops, but I love the feel of having my shoulder blades free, and not having the straps fall off my shoulders. I wish bra manufacturers would fasten the back of the straps closer towards the spine in conventional styles too.
Wearing a bra comfortably shouldn't require an Associate Diploma. It should be easy!