When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
Technology never sleeps, however, and we have better tools today for controlling spam than we did just a few years ago. So I am very excited and pleased to bring the forum back online.
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Best wishes,
Christine Kent
Founder
Whole Woman
Christine
June 2, 2005 - 3:25pm
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I just love this
plain jane 38
June 2, 2005 - 5:00pm
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I have been reading the posts on uprise and boy, it sure does make me glad that I found this site! It looks like Christine is right on when she says that one surgery just leads to another. I am not knocking the women on that site, it just makes me sad that they did not know of any other alternative. Once you go down that road, it never ends. Just read the surgeries after their names.Although I am new to this site, I would like to thank Sybille also. I have read all of her posts and they are always encouraging and helpful to me. I work hard too and feel we are kindred spirits.
I really wish the women on this site would discuss things with each other more. It would be very good for us to get to know each other better. We would also be more likely to mention things that have been helpful to us. Sometime we don't think our ideas are very
useful and don't pass them on. Please, "Let's Talk"!
I check this site several times a day and am always so glad to see another new post.
Jane
Christine
June 2, 2005 - 5:19pm
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Does idle chat (women's favorite pastime:-)) count? I know Sybille was expecting a grandbaby...Sybille?
sybille
June 2, 2005 - 6:47pm
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Aw shucks, Christine. You are just a neat gal!
Expecting a grandbaby. Twin girls nine months ago by my son and a baby still "in the oven" until September 13th by my youngest daughter. A boy. Total of five grandchildren and at the tender age of 59 - have come full circle. It is a mighty good feeling.
Sybille
sybille
June 2, 2005 - 6:56pm
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Hi "plain jane 38"
Thank you for your comments. Emotionally I "wear" the prolapses as a "badge of honor." Having had three children and pretty much working most of my life, I would rather show something else for my efforts, but if prolapses are going to be it, so be it and thanks to Christine for the alternative route.
Doctors can be very intimidating and even worse, if they perceive us as having something between our ears, like reasoning ability. Whether doctors will adopt this method of "healing" remains to be seen, but in the meantime, this forum will offer the emotional support and a learning tools we all need. After all - we, as women, are created equal and none of us have exclusive rights to prolapses. So, I think, sharing what works for us is very important.
Sybille
Christine
June 3, 2005 - 4:52am
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Hooray for grandmothers!!!!!!!
BaNa48
June 3, 2005 - 4:56am
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Hi Sybille, I enjoyed your letter on June 2nd. What energy!!!!!!!I am 61, have great grandchildren now and you are right. We can't slow down. I worked from morning until 10:00 last night, and fell into bed. This morning I read your letter and wonder what the "Bridge and Mayan" exercises are? I am 2nd-3rd degree cys-and rect, with uterus slipping down. Was scheduled for surgery on May 9th and changed my mind. I want to keep what I have if possible. And after 2 months of some exercises, I believe things are getting better already. Best of health to you also, Nancy
sybille
June 3, 2005 - 8:30am
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The bridge is a yoga pose - looking up on the internet will give you a pictoral description. Lay on your back, knees bent, arms to the sides (leave them there) and then lift the tush as high as you can go and hold. Makes for a tight "bum-bum" and that gives support.
With the Mayan massage (as I understand it), lay on your back (I do so in bed), bend the knees and then with your finger tips placed just above the pubic bone, gently "dig in deep" and just as gently scoop the "innards" towards your stomach. You can hold for a few seconds and then repeat. Do so from the right, left and then middle of the abdomen. I have developed a habit of laying on my tummy most of the night and this allows everything to be placed towards the front that needs to be placed there. I also do the mayan massage while engaged in the bridge pose. This allows gravity to help.
Even though I do the above, I cannot stress enough (as does Christine) that the way we walk and sit is the entire crux of this "healing" process. Our ligaments and muscles will remain stretched, just like a well used rubber band, but we can offer them the proper support.
I kept thinking of the terminology "whole woman" and in the context of this forum, it is a well described word. No one dares to assume that any woman who has undergone surgery is not a whole woman but for this subject theme, the implications are such that all our feminine organs are very much with us. To think that Christine or anyone else would minimize a woman's very being is a bit narrow minded. After all, what is being accomplished is an alternative route other than surgical procedures. Because of our delicate nature that allowed the prolapses to form, what else can the doctor work with but "well used rubber bands." No wonder the failure rate is so high. And, our organs were not meant to be sutured to our tail bones, adhesions to form and the bladder to be "stuck" in an un natural position. To add insult to injury, how does one "thicken" up the vaginal walls so that the bulges don't press against it? The best that can be done is to minimize pressure against that area; doctors can only treat the symptoms. New ones seem to always "cave in." Another surgical procedure waiting in the wings.
The above is my take on this entire subject and my way of understanding our unique and very feminine body.
Sybille
BaNa48
June 3, 2005 - 9:43am
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I thank you very much, Sybille! I printed it out so I can remember it all the time. I have been doing the bridge pose, but not the Mayan massage. Thanks again, Nancy