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MeMyselfAndI
April 7, 2007 - 1:38pm
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Well...
To be honest I think it would just make you miserable fna hungry as hell!
I think eating naturally would help more and to find a better way than starving yourself. Cos you gotta eat sometime you know.
callie
April 7, 2007 - 6:04pm
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No starving allowed!
I know I have to eat sometime...lol
But I just thought giving that area a good rest would do something.... like shrivel up and go away, You'd think it would. This is a fast to cleanse the system - give stuff a rest, not about starving. In order to fast in a healthy manner you'd have to have a healthy relationship with food or you'd be sick. Someone who is anorexic or bulimic would have a lot of problems,
Electrolytes can be a huge issue. You'd be dead if you have an eating disorder and fasted 10 days. No not a good idea.
If after I try everything else and I am not better I am doing that and I 'll let ya all know. I love food and hate being so skinny this isn't something I do to be thin.
I eat from the minute I get up to the minute I go to bed. I can only eat little amounts at a time and then 40 minutes later I am hungary all over again.
And wouldn't you know the skinny one can fast for 10 days! (Really after 3 days there is no hunger. Its amazing. I start out slow.
Of course I take in liquids that are unprocessed and organic. I use an herbal cleanse program to help the body to release toxins on a cellular level as well as hardened waste lining the intestinal tract. And a bunch of other stuff)
So I really was curious if anyone had any thoughts on fasting in a healthy thoughtful way and a prolaspe, especially a rectocele.
granolamom
April 7, 2007 - 8:38pm
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fasting and rectocele
I don't know much about fasting, more than a day or so here and there that I've done for religious reasons.
but, rectocele is a problem of structure and support, or lack thereof. In a non-prolapsed woman, the rectum is held up and over the vagina by ligaments and fascia which do not allow for sagging or bulging into vaginal space.
after years of poor posture or trauma to the area (be it surgical, birth related, chronic constipation or whatever) the fascia can become misshapen and since the postural supports are not in place either, the bowels start to bulge into vaginal space. this is not a result of (though it often happens along with) weak pelvic muscles, but rather poor positioning of organs. then, as we know all too well, fecal matter doesn't pass normally, builds up, increases the bulge, we get constipated & strain and cause more damage to the whole system.
so......while a fast may give your bottom some relief, I doubt it can 'cure' a rectocele.
but those are just my suspicions. if you try it, please let us know what happens!
Lilly Anne
April 7, 2007 - 9:29pm
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fasting
Callie:
I don't think fasting for 10-days is a healthy solution. If you want to give that area a rest take a stool softner, drink lots of water and eat fruits and veggies.
As long as you are not straining on the toilet it should just come out without any effort.
- Lilly Anne
callie
April 7, 2007 - 11:53pm
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always looking for that quick fix
Yeah you guys are right. I just wish I could fix this thing-quickly. Today I ordered the book, dvd and some wooden exercise thing, which I assume the book will talk about.
I am still in shock that the doc let me go out of his office with nothing more then a brochure and told me how to use my fingers to push on a bulge. He could have at least told me its called "splinting"
...Thanks everyone for your thoughts on fasting. Also thanks granolamom
for the details on this posture your all talking about on here.
I am very excited to get my book. Also thanks for the details on the structure and support system. That's a ton more then the doctor told me.
AnneKane
April 8, 2007 - 1:38pm
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fasting /cleansing the ayurredic way
Hi
I've wanted to try some sort of cleanse for ages and next week i'm gonna bit the bullet with an ayurveda based cleanse.
My concerns regarding cleanses came after seeing frinds do various cleanses and detoxes where they ended up feeling very debalitated and frankly looking really awfull.
They were also extended cleanses, involving lot's of vitamin intake.
I had a short mild one recommended to me called the wild rose i think and it seemed ok, except i didn't think it was really purifying to fill my body with all these additive and filler/binder stuffed pill's wrapped in plasticy capsules.
My training is in Chinese medicine, acupuncture specifically and in that tradition there aren't cleanses described, outside of (overall dietary guideline's). So i looked to ayurveda. Another ancient tradition.
They have a kind of mild cleanse described by Vasant Lad, a panchakarma involving a few steps.
The main one is eating a monodiet KITCHAREE for 6 day's, using oil massage suitable for you're dosha or type and ingesting oil's in small quantities such as seasame oil or flax oil. The other parts involved massaging yourself with oils and putting a few drop's of oil in you're nose, and using a herbal enema a few times. Nothing to complex.
Kitcharee is basically mug beans and rice and a few other ingrediant's and it's supposed to be very cleansing for the body and the blood and tissues etc..
However in this book and another book i read by david frawley (both author's i'd reccomend), they caution that for weak, anemic, debalitated pple this approach is harmfull and that tonification directly is the route to go.. involving herbs like asththwanga (sp?)
As an aside, i was in the local herbal shop yesterday and i overheard the herbalist say to a lady, "so how is the prolapse feeling now", and she said "yeah i have noticed an improvement, but it's just one week so i shouldn't be so impatient"
He's the guy who told me he'd had complete success with three prolapses (but couldn't deal with one botched by a surgeon who dropped his watch into the lady rushing to finish to play golf!)
Anyhoo so the overall plan is - do the cleanse, tonify and start on his herbs again. ( i went off 'cos of my pesky final's - it was all chocolate, curries and cofee for me!)
I've been sporadic with excercise too,so back to christine's great dvd too....
anyway best wishes everyone and i'll report back with how i get on...
xx
Anne-helen