Rectorcele and Cystocele

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I am 43 years old. I have been having problems with Rectorcele and Cystocele. With Rectorcele being w
the worse of the two. My boyfriend has been wanting to have anal sex but I find it hard to tell him about these two problems. I think anal sex would be the worse thing I could do and it would make these two condtions far worse.
At this point sexual intercourse is painful and I can feel the bulge of tissue in my vagina. It is not protuding through the vaginal opening but from what I understand that is what I have to look forward to next.
I am not leaking stool but I understand that is another item I have to look forward too. I do feel pain and pressure in my vagina while having sex and after sex my lower back hurts. It feels as if my guts are going to fall out of my vagina when I am on my feet after sex. Will sex make this problem worse? I can see that surgery is not something that the medical profession seems anxious to jump on till the problem is severe. Why is this? If this would correct the problem wouldn't it be easier if it were done before the problems became severe?

I am not sure why your boyfrien has suddenly decided anal sex would be good - PersoannlyI cannot sayif it would help you or make things worse for you. I couldnt really see it making things better in my view tho...

Have you tried posture? If your problem is not severe there is a good chance thatit would alleviate things alot - I came here with it 'peeking' and now i hardly get any problems at all.

Having sex should be fine as things fall back into place when you lie down - especially missionary may make the rectocele fall back into place.

On this site we tend to find other ways of doing things and not focus on surgery as that can bring its own set of problems...
Sue

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I think if I were in your situation I would avoid anal intercourse. You already have problems in that area. The anus and rectum are not naturally designed to accommodate penile penetration and thrusting. Granted many people do it anyway and have no problems, but there are also many who have serious health issues resulting from anal intercourse. This is not something you should risk in my opinion.

Gentle, careful vaginal intercourse SHOULDN'T cause you pain, even if you have pelvic organ prolapse, but sometimes it does. If you have not done so, you should have a thorough evaluation to make sure there aren't other conditions coexisting that are the true cause of your pain. If you rule out other things, then you and your boyfriend can work with trying different positions and lubrication to see if you can improve things.

No, the tissue may not necessarily ever protrude through the vagina, so don't panic. It may, it may not. Your prolapse could stabilize and never worsen. It is very important for you to avoid straining on the toilet to avoid it worsening.

Some doctors may indeed tell you that surgery sooner is better. I don't necessarily think that is true. It may be better from THEIR standpoint, but not necessarily from yours. Surgery sooner makes it easier for them to locate "landmarks" and so on, in putting you back where you belong. But surgery tends to lead the area into an unnatural cascade of weakening in the long run, and a large proportion of women are then told they need additional surgery a few years later. It might be better to delay surgery and deal with the symptoms as long as possible, because it is possible you may never need it if you can manage the condition on your own, and it does not worsen.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your reply. I have irritiable bowel syndrome so straining is not always an option when I am having it flare up. I wonder if the kriggle exercises really work. I know I miss spelled that word but I think you know what I mean. Thanks much for your input. Lynn

Thank you very much for your helpful reply. David and I started dating 10 months ago. I just realized a month ago I have these two problems. We have not had anal sex, it is just something he expressed an interested in. You valdated me thoughts about staying away from that stuff especially with the problems I am having now.
You told me to try "posture"...did you mean sexual positions? I am interested in trying most anything that might work to fix it. Please elborate about the "posture" thing you mentioned in your reply. Thank you very much for your reply. I hope to hear from you soon. lynn

The posture is a more natural way of standing sitting and using your body - Before humans decided that we must stand so upright our organs sit 'over the precipice' ready to fall lol

If you go to the FAQs it will explain the posture to you (also explains it in christines book and alot more info also)

If you go to www.wholewoman.com and go to FAQ section - It will help you out about many many things there :-)

The posture is not an instantaneous fix - For me it took a month or two for me to really feel more 'lifted inside'
Sue

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I was diagnosed with rectocele about 7 months ago after having pain and pressure that appeared in the rectal, vaginal, bladder area. Due to good advice from this site, things calmed down: better eating, losing weight, being carful, etc. However, now that school has started and I am either sitting or on my feet again, I can feel the pain and pressure returning. I feel discouraged because I have tried to follow all the right steps and the problem is returning. What am I missing? Are there any other suggestions?

I think the problem is one of continuing management, rather than "fixing" it once. Like any chronic disorder, it is going to flare at times of stress.

Thanks for the reminder that prolapse is not an event, but a condition. I needed to hear that again and change my mindset. I tend to be quite introspective at times. Management is a good word for me. Thanks.

I am wondering why so many articles about rectocele say that there are no symptoms. Although mine is a Stage 2, it was discovered because of problems with pain in the vagina-bladder-rectum area. Can the location of the rectocele affect the symptoms? Mine is quite low.

Hi Tiddbits

Yeah, it's a bit hard to fathom. I guess the symptoms of rectocele are quite similar to some other things, and quite general. They are not life threatening, just uncomfortable and inconvenient. They are also to do with the 'poo' thing, so are not discussed very openly.

The other thing is that there are a some things where medical opinion is at odds with reality, or some medical opinions are at odds with reality, eg "Once you have asthma, you have it forever." Wrong, or maybe, in spite of my constant wheezing and coughing fits, I didn't have asthma at all. It was diagnosed as asthma and treated with asthma drugs which it did respond to, to a certain degree, but my specialist eventually shrugged his shoulders and said he couldn't do any more for me. I did a Buteyko Breathpower course and the asthma gradually left over about 12 months. I couldn't wheeze to save myself these days, so they were wrong, sort of.

People who write articles don't necessarily know any more about the subject than you or I do, especially if they have never had it and don't know anybody who has had it. And many conditions are so variable that you could say almost anything about the symptoms, and be both right and wrong, depending on who you talk to.

What it comes down to is that something is not right in the 'poos' department. You rule out the nasties then get on with finding out more about the 'poos' department until you can figure out which bits are giving what sensations when. Then you have a reasonable idea what is happening, and go along to the doctor and tell her/him, and they agree with you and give you a long medical name for it. This is called diagnosis.

They can sometimes fill in the missing facts, and they can sometimes tell you how to fix it. They can often tell you the risks associated with the different treatment options available to you, but often they can't, or don't. I figure doctors cannot know everything, but they can point me in the right direction.

The moral of the story is don't believe everything you read, but believe in what your body is telling you, which you have done. You have actually gone one better and found this Forum which has many, many members who have personal experience with rectocele, and each has her own story which you can learn from. The surgical route is too scary and damaging for me to even contemplate, so I listen to all these wise women.

Yes, rectocele can happen high or low. Christine may chime in and tell you the difference. There is also quite a lot about rectocele in Christine Kent's book, Saving the Whole Woman which is available from the Wholewoman online shop.

Cheers

Louise

Probably because most of the articles are written by men.