When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
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louiseds
February 22, 2008 - 2:51am
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Physical therapy
Hi Nicole
Haven't heard from you for a while. I have just been for a Bowen session this afternoon, and didn't realise how tight and sore I had been. I didn't go for treatment of prolapse but I feel that I am now moving freer, so WW posture is now easier. Tomorrow I will probably feel like something the cat dragged in, but that is what happens to me with Bowen. It is not until about a week later that I start to feel better.
Cheers
Louise
caterpillar7
February 25, 2008 - 9:49pm
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hi louise!
Hi Louise, that's good that the sessions help you even if it does take a few days. how are you doing otherwise?
I'm feeling better since that abdominal surgery I had for the nasty ovarian cyst. I can't remember if I posted afterwards, but I had internal hemorrhaging afterwards and was really sick for months. Even though I am not anti-surgery for prolapse, I am SO GLAD that I decided not to have them 'fixed' at the same time I had the cyst surgery. That would have made everything even worse. I barely survived as it is. Anyway, since having the cyst removed, I think that my prolapse is bit better. I haven't been as obsessed about it.
The only thing I'm concerned about it is that I'm in the process of moving and worried about the prolapse worsening from lifting. I actually decided to hire movers so that I won't have to do as much, but still.
The reason I'm asking about physical therapy is that my Vulvodynia dr., who is a Pelvic Floor Specialist, wants me to go back to PT b/c my muscles are a mess and I'm in pain a lot of the time, vaginally. I was hoping that PT would help with the prolapse as well. Who knows, I guess.
anyway, take care,
nicole
louiseds
February 26, 2008 - 4:21am
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hi Louise!
Hi Nicole
I wondered how you went with that cyst. You went very quiet. I hoped that was good news, and it sounds like it was OK, eventually. Thanks for calling back, because the end of this bit of your story is here now, for all to see. I really cannot see how anybody can go into any sort of surgery without a lot of anxiety and prayer. It is often very unpredictable, even with modern imaging. I am so glad it is over for you and the results are good.
I have had 2 cysts the size of footballs one on each ovary, at the same time, as a part of infertility treatment. I could not eat anything and could hardly breathe in the end because there was so much fluid in my abdominal cavity. I really think that made my prolapses worse, and certainly the distension to looking 6 months pregnant when I was only 4 weeks was pretty distressing overall. I had 5 litres of fluid removed through an incision in my navel, but still only got down to looking 3 months pregnant before I started to expand again with the pregnancy. By the end of the pregnancy my pelvic floor was well and truly shot to pieces. I felt like Violet Beauregard after she blew up like a blueberry in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory! I did, however, have a really good labour with no episiotomy, and the pelvic floor recovered with the help of some interferential therapy a few months later.
I would imagine your prolapses would be better simply because you have so much more room in your belly. I have found that my prolapses do get low after a lot of (careful) heavy bending, squatting and lifting, but they do go up again. I think I have come to trust them, rightly or wrongly, though I always do heavy stuff in posture anyway, standing, walking, squatting, bending over etc. You just do your best. Life is full of compromise, and that seems to be OK, as long as you don't push it too far.
The two days following my Bowen were pretty uncomfortable, and waking up and getting up the second day was just horrible. I felt paralysed, like I was in a coma and it took me an hour just to wake up. Mind you, that may have had something to do with the party we went to the previous night. Not a lot of drinking but a 1 1/2 hour drive home and getting to bed at 1.30pm! But I'm fine now, and starting to feel the benefit of the Bowen. I have had three in a row, each a week apart, and I am recovering more quickly from each one, and the prolapses are good, because I feel freer in my movement. The next Bowen is 2 weeks time. It is really wierd what a Bowen does to my body. You wouldn't really think it could make that much difference.
Hope the move is going OK. It doesn't seem to take all the exertion away getting movers, but it certainly makes a difference.
Vulvodynia is so hard to deal with. Nobody seems to have much idea why it even happens. I hope you can get it resolved. I wonder if Christine's LS treatment would be relevant?
Cheers
Louise
kit
February 26, 2008 - 11:19am
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Nicole and Louise
Nicole, I know of an organic herbal gel that is supposed to be wonderful for vulvodynia, if skin irritation is part of your symptoms. Email me if you'd like the website.
Louise, do you drink lots of water following your Bowen sessions, and in the days after? It is supposed to help rid the body of the released toxins. My acu-pressure therapist hounds me to drink, drink, drink, even supplying a bottle right after each session.
I feel so drawn to the energy-medicines that I want to learn more about them and experience more of them. Kit
sheppie
February 26, 2008 - 10:33pm
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Yes some relief with PT
Hi
I have been seeing my PT 1x a week since 8 weeks postpartum. It has helped in that I was hanging out of my vagina and now am safely inside (well on most days). She has taught me the right way to kegal and to not do too many. She releases the tightness of my bladder and my leakage has all but gone. I attribute the latter to a natural part of healing after a traumatic birthing though as well as excercise. I was horribly constipated when I went to her even after taking all kinds of things to assist me. She gently urged me to contract the muscles with her assistance and then taught me to do on my own. I have had not real problems since. I must confess, bad food more then once a week can send me back to the constipation department. Hope this helps...........
louiseds
February 27, 2008 - 12:29am
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relief with PT
Hi Sheppie
So glad your body is coming good. Hope your baby is treating you well. My pelvic floor muscles were comatose after my second birth, but with PT they came good too. Prior to that I couldn't get any movement out of them at all. Another birth two years later, and now 22 years on, my pelvic floor muscles have plenty of grunt and don't cause me any trouble at all. My mobile bladder and urethra occasionally leak a little, but not seriously enough to have to wear pads. I only do Kegels occasionally these days. They mostly get sexercise instead!
Cheers
Louise
caterpillar7
March 7, 2008 - 4:52pm
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thanks
Thanks everyone for your responses. I will probably go back to PT over the next few months for the vulvodynia because I do think I need it. Let's hope it will help with the prolapses too. Will let you know.
nicole