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granolamom
September 9, 2008 - 6:45pm
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I'm no doctor, but....
I *think that the wider, more open vagina is due to childbirth. some women end up like that, and some more than others. I would imagine that episiotomy or other interventions (including odd position of baby or huge head) have something to do with that.
just my thoughts
louiseds
September 9, 2008 - 9:18pm
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Wider opening of vaginal entrance
Hi Newmum
I have had three vaginal births in the 1980's and prolapses that I can bring down to the entrance of my vagina. Cervix can peek a little. I am 55, currently menstruating (sigh ... again ...) and have been doing periods of quite hard, physical work every day recently, shifting building materials, climbing ladders, using bigger hammers etc.
After four years of WW posture my organs are now tucked inside my vagina all the time and sometimes undetectable in WW posture, (but it is difficult to try and find them and stay in posture!
I suspect the vagina has a resting state which is pretty much the same in all of us, *as long as* the pelvic organs are supported on bone when standing, though some women find this happens more readily than others, some may not be there quite yet, and there may be some who will not get that degree of improvment.
It is the integrity of the fascial supports of the vagina, with the help of the muscles of the pelvic floor (both of which may become damaged during vaginal birth and not heal tightly, or are cut and may be sutured badly), that may cause the vaginal entrance to be wider after a pregnancy/vaginal birth. Don't know what happens after casesarian delivery. Any clues, anyone????
When I stand in WW posture momentarily with my feet shoulder width apart my big labia cover my urethral opening but my vagina is exposed and slightly open (maybe a centimetre), smooth elliptical slit. I cannot feel any lumps with my fingers. My epi scar from the first birth is stretched, so I can't feel it. If I bear down at that point both my posterior vaginal wall and my bladder come down a bit, resulting in a slight feeling of pressure on my rectum.
When I stand in my old posture (with my butt tucked under) the big labia are the same, the vaginal opening is slightly wider (maybe 1.5cm) and there is a frilly, fleshy lip at the front of my perineum. When I bear down there is a feeling of pressure on my rectum that then moves forwards through the whole vulval area. I could probably make the organs protrude if I bore down hard enough, but no way! Interestingly, I no longer feel pressure when I do get out of WW posture. So my vagina is packed closed by surrounding organs but the entrance gapes a little when out of WW posture.
I would urge every woman to be aware of her normal genital topography, right from the pubic hair right through to the anus, inside and out, right up to the cervix. We are encouraged to examine our breasts regularly, so why not? I would also encourage women to encourage their daughters to do the same, (which they will do spontaneously as children anyway!) so they are not scared or ashamed of their genitals as they grow up, feel what the hymen feels like, and respect its integrity, learn appropriate hygiene (wash hands first, feel front, then back then wash hands again afterwards), and know what changes occur through each month, externally during pregnancy, postpartum, during breastfeeding, 12 months after pregnancies, and as they end their reproductive lives. I only wish I had taken more notice during my own development and early womanhood. It is interesting to note the changes that happen close to menopause too.
It is your body. You have the right and responsibility to know what is going on with it, for its own good.
Cheers
Louise