Hi Friends!!! Gulp...pregnant again...

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Hi Friends!!!

Long story short, our other pewter got really sick (virus etc) and so it fell out the window. No back in action with a new and improved one.

I will cut to the chase. I have read this site,the book and other information sites but I want to hear from real people...almost live.

I am 43. Have a 15 month old and a cys and a rec and am now again pregnant.
I have not lost all my previous baby weight and know I must be careful this time around not to get too heavy as that surely will affect things.

Question is......what should I watch for? What should I be doing...not doing?
As I have felt pretty good these past few months (even though still nursing) I have felt a real drag lately and wondered what had happened to cause this. Now I know.

I look to those with experience in this department. Oh and I also have a non active fistula.

Thank you in advance.
Sheppie

hi sheppie
congrats on the pg!

re: your question..what to watch for - constipation! relatively common during pg, it is NOT your friend! if you are still nursing, be sure to stay hydrated.

what should you be doing? try to stay in posture as long as you can, eat well, rest, and enjoy your pregnancy! also start thinking about how you want labor/delivery to go (line up support people if necessary and think about various positions with regard to prolapse).
what should you not be doing? firebreathing, unfortunately, shouldn't be done during pg. plie's are good. stretching out while on your hands and knees is another one that was wonderful for me while I was pg. and of course, no straining on the toilet.

I know close to nothing about fistulas. so I'm no help there.

how far along are you?

oh man- I will swear up and down that having 3 babies in three years caused my prolapse (well and my massive tear)- but man do I love the close spacing of my children. It is wonderful. they play so well and really relate to each other.
I am pregnant now too and this will be my first pregnancy to *know* about my prolapse. I know I had it after my second was born for sure - but at the time I thought it was normal swelling and it went away ( I couldn't see it)- only to be found after my third was born- and it has gotten much smaller (not visible again) and is now getting more noticeable again.

So here are the things I am doing or plan to do: no pushing birth at home (probably in the water)- no heavy lifting right now- good food- plenty of rest- a strict recovery period (if I tear this time I am going to let it heal naturally by keeping my legs together for a few weeks)- and then I will manage it like I have for the last 2 years or so.....

That's it- explore your birth options and really educate yourself.....

Hi Sheppie

Congratulations, even if it was a bit of a surprise! My third pregnancy was a big surprise. I thought I had some nasty virus, but it turned out a lot better than that! It's always exciting when one of our Wholewoman family is having a baby. We will wait for progress reports. Now you know what you know I am sure it will all go well, even if your POP's worsen for a bit over the next few weeks.

Cheers

Louise

Thank you both for responding I was hoping you both would.
I looked up the no push birth. Sounds great except I am not living in the most ahem progessive place on earth and I fear that the old lay down, and all the goods will be thrown at me once again. You see, they will feed me the you are "geriatric" thing like they did last time and "whoa this and whoa that". I fear for my organs (like every woman on this board) and want to keep them where they are. I question the C-section and wonder how people have done with that? Does that make the other organs likely to prolapse more? I know who can really say as each of us has our own body. But I guess I will expand all options. Surprise indeed as I though I was getting a really really bad case of PMS.

I will keep you posted after I get through the 1st gyno exam which is always demeaning as last time she said "well if you keep the pregnancy"..oh thanks way to be positive.

Cheers
p.s. oh but 1 question, does increased weight make them all push down? If so, I will try to only gain between 15-20 lbs this time around not the robust 55 I did last time.

Hi Sheppie

It is hard to say. I figure that there is probably a healthy amount of bulk for each body. If I feel too bulky on the outside I figure that I am probably too bulky on the inside as well, and I certainly notice it if I have to squat or strain to do something. Women who lose weight often seem to say that POP is worse, maybe because the 'nature's pessary' plug is smaller than it was when they were overweight, but maybe because they have lost weight so quickly that their connective tissue has not had time to adjust, and everything is a bit loose on the inside, as it is loose on the outside. Your lumbar curve will naturally increase as you become more pregnant and throw your bladder forwards, and your uterus will eventually grow upwards and out of your pelvic cavity (too big to descend). I think pregnancy is constant change and adjustment. There are so many factors to consider with weight gain during pregnancy. I'll leave it to the expectant Wholewoman to explore this further.

Re CS, I figure that they have to cut some fascia to get to the uterus anyway. There is little point in further compromising the fascial structures of the body more than they are already. Remember that women's bodies were designed to give birth vaginally. There has to be a pretty pressing reason to do it any other way, but that's just my opinion.

I am sorry you don't live in a very (umm) progressive part of the world. I am sure you would not be the first woman at the hospital to refuse to lie down and you certainly won't be the last! Who do they think you are, a baby??? All you need is to provide them with a brief opportunity to monitor the baby's heartbeat regularly if they must, in between contractions, familiarise yourself thoroughly with the principles of birthing in a position other than lying down on your back (which is anatomically much better for both you and the foetus) and let them know beforehand, in writing, so they can prepare themselves. It is your labour, not theirs!!! Negotiate it all beforehand. Go for it. Many of us have been there and we will all be rooting for ya!

Cheers

Louise

I don't know if it makes it worse but if you can keep the numbers down all the power to ya.
I know I tried, but with each pg I gained between 45 and 55 lb (and that's with really watching my intake and exercising 6times/week up until 37 weeks). so don't stress out too much about it.

and sorry you're not in a more progressive place. do you have any options?
I know that some hospitals near me (I'm in NY) pretty much ignore written birth plans if it doesn't match their 'protocols'. they always have the little disclaimer thing, that states they have final say about pretty much everything. another reason I chose a homebirth.

and whats with the 'if you keep the pg'??? that's probably one of the most insensitive comments I've heard in a while. (up there with the time I was doing rounds in an acute care setting and the attending says to the resident -in the patient's presence- 'well, he's the amputee we did last week, doing well, but you know these diabetics, they don't hold onto their legs for too long. a toe today, a below the knee tomorrow, hahahaha')

Thank you for your wisdom and support.
I have referred this site to a few gal friends that insist they don't have a problem but are interested in mine. HMMMNNNNNNNNnnnnnnnnnnnn