protecting POP with a fiesty 2 year old

Do you mean that you can feel your POP when you have to pick him up or physically deal with him? I don't know if my experience is similar, but for example, yesterday I changed the sheets of our king sized bed. In order to put on the new ones I must pick up the corner of the very heavy mattress. As I began to do that I felt the pressure in the pelvic area. Any time you pick up something heavy the abdominal cavity increases pressure, I think that is called the "valsalva" maneuver. Anyways, I stopped what I was doing and put in my pessary. Then I could continue comfortably. I feel as if the pessary keeps the tissues from stretching too much - I don't KNOW if technically this is true but it seems logical and it certainly FEELS true.

I am NOT saying a pessary will allow someone with POP to pick up heavy loads safely. I am just telling you what my experience is in case you are desperate for a solution. I do imagine it helps me a lot - whether that is imagination or reality I am not asserting either way.

Hi Kiki,

There certainly is a point in heavy lifting where it turns destructive - I haven’t been able to lift really heavy stuff, like boulders, for a couple of years now. But I continue to amaze myself in the lifting department anyway.

A few weeks ago my almost-2-year-old solid-as-a-rock granddaughter and I rode the bus (her favorite thing to do - lol) to our food market. I carried a small basket in one hand and held her hand in the other as we walked to the bus stop and boarded the bus. The plan was to do a little shopping and come home. Well, she promptly fell deeply asleep and there was no waking her up to walk when we reached our destination.

So I picked her up, held the basket on one arm, and walked one block to the store. There was still no setting her down into a shopping cart or anything, as she was snoring on my shoulder. I put what we needed into my basket as I shifted her from shoulder to shoulder (really accentuating the posture by pushing my belly forward), paid my money, and walked with her and a full basket to the bus stop across the street. A city bench was never so welcomed!

I really thought I was going to be a wreck the next day, but it only took a little walking, firebreathing, and pulling up into the posture to feel fine. Once you live ten or twenty years with this, you’ll see that any fear of a “point of no return” really doesn’t apply to prolapse. I say, do what you have to do, when you have to do it, and relax knowing you have the tools to help your pelvic organ support system recoil from physical stress.

:) Christine

a two year old- but he doesn't seem to have the typical two behaviors-
He has been living with my prolapse now for his whole life and doesn't expect me to lift him much-
One thing I have done is during tantrum type behavior- drop everything- often we feel this to be impossible- but it isn't- I have done it in the grocery store even- I stop everything- get on the floor and just be there for my child- whatever he needs- I am there-
Night time at our house is for daddy- I recently had to do a night with all of them and of course he woke up- but I asked him to hold my hand and walk to the potty and he did- and then I had to help him up on the potty- but I just kneeled at the bottom of the toilet and he stepped up onto my leg and climbed onto the potty.- and then he held my hand and we walked back to the bed and he climbed in and I rubbed his back and he went back to sleep no problem-
He climbs up into his car seat- his spot at the table- the swing- everything- he is very strong and mobile- and has been for a long time-

I guess I suggest just thinking outside of the box- what can he climb up on- how can you come down to him? Can you catch a tantrum before it starts (be realistic here- is he tired, hungry, sick, overstimulated)? Carry fun snacks- new toys- in your bag to distract him from a tantrum (simple little things like cars or plastic animals- pen and paper).
Practice managing angry feelings with him when you are home (tearing paper- scribbling- throwing soft stuffed animals at a basket....stuff like this) so that he doesn't just melt to the ground when he is frustrated- and even if he isn't very verbal give him words for his upset feelings and let him know it is good to get those feelings out-

I once lifted my 50 pounder out from under the loft when she was sick (I could not use proper form- what she was under was about 4 feet high and I had to hunch over)- I felt it for days and days- but soon it went back to normal-

my almost-two-yo will have an all out tantrum, kicking screaming on the floor and I often just sit next to him and wait it out. but sometimes this isn't possible, especially if he doesn't want to get in the car and its snowing and 19 degrees and I have to pick up my 5 yo from school. so I just lift him and do what I have to do and really, I never feel it in my prolapse.
BUT
my 10 yo is prone to those same behaviors, and she's alot bigger and more unwieldly to lift safely. I rarely attempt but in those instances where dh is not home and I must, I do. and then I sometimes feel a bit bulgier, but as soon as I get back into posture and do a couple of plies or arm flaps, its all good.
I think the key is how often do you stress the system and how often do you strengthen it. like putting money in the checking account.

and in most cases, this too shall pass. I'm still waiting for it to pass with my dd, but I'm clinging to the adage.

Oh how I remember dragging them out from the middle of the street. A skinned knee vs a car speeding along at that moment made me have no problem "dragging". Fortunately neither of my kids had a lot of tantrums, but they did have some. They were nearly always connected to hunger or tiredness, and I realized they'd been pushed beyond their limits. I tried to keep to toddler time and toddler schedule, feeding them frequent, small meals, and not trying to attempt long grocery trips expecting them to sit still in a cart, that sort of thing.

When in public, I would just ignore the tantrum and proceed to physically remove them from the scene. At home, I would put on ear protection, and let them carry on. It never lasted long at all once they saw it was getting no reaction from me. I am a firm believer that people are essentially the same from before birth all the way through old age, so I think kids want the same thing I want when I am in an out-of-control rage... to be allowed to explode harmlessly and let the energy dissipate. I want to be left alone when I am extremely angry - so that I can gain control of myself with dignity - so I left my toddlers alone to let them do the same thing. I don't mean alone alone, I always made sure they stayed safe, but I didn't try to interact with them or reason with them. I just pretended not to pay any attention to them so they could handle themselves as they saw fit.

my son is 2 as well he is very good tempered but every now and then he will lose it...he went through a phase from about 18months until he was almost 2...he would just scream and cry over little things and sometimes carry on for almost 30 min...when i would try to console or comfort him he would scream louder or just not listen so i decided to just sit with him while he had these episodes and eventually they would just stop....and if he through a fit over something he wanted i would just let him lay in the floor and throw his fit...i wouldnt look at him or talk to him i would just carry on like nothing was going on ...he eventually would forget what he was upset about get up and move on..he no longer has tantrums like that anymore except on the rare occasion. I also use 123 magic and it has worked wonders for us i havent had to put him in time out in almost 2 weeks which saves me a lot of energy physical and mentally....i just say thats 1 and he stops whatever he is doing....or if he is in a part of the house that he isnt suppose to be in i just yell thats 1 and he usually runs from wherever he is at and comes to me...so that saves me from having to get up and drag him out of stuff

its a book for disciplining kids ages 2-12......the author is thomas w. phelan the book is called "1-2-3 magic"..i had a friend that was using it and i was amazed at the results she got so i started using it .....now there are a ton of people i know that are using it and saying that it is really working for them. I dont know what i would do without it...probaly go crazy from yelling all the time