When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
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Christine
February 16, 2009 - 1:43pm
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rectocele surgery
Look it up on the Web - there are many descriptions. Basically, an instrument is inserted rectally that amputates a full-thickness, circular section of rectum and staples the cut edges together in one motion. Have you tried firebreathing and nauli for any length of time?
louiseds
February 16, 2009 - 6:36pm
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Amputation
I would like to add to Christine's post.
Prolapse of the rectum (rectocele) does not mean that there is anything *wrong* with the rectum. All that has happened is that the fascia that holds the rectum in position has become damaged, allowing the rectum to sag through the fascia into the vaginal space, kind of like a broken partition in a duvet which lets the feathers down into the next compartment. It would seem to me illogical that a doctor would want to cut out functional, undamaged tissue that is not the tissue that causes the problem. The damaged fascia is the problem, and they are not able to sew that up without causing further damage. It is kind of like trying to sew together a big hole in pantihose. It puckers and creates stretching that will hole again (and a need for further $urgery).
My big wakeup call was when a gynaecologist wanted to remove my healthy uterus so he could avail himself of the remaining stumps of the supporting ligaments to hang my bladder onto and chuck my uterus in an incinerator. No thanks!
Both procedures seem to me a bit like catching sharks, cutting off their fins (for medicinal use) then throwing the helpless shark overboard without killing it, to drown. Well, maybe not quite so drastic, but you KWIM? A shark cannot surivve without its fins, cos it cannot swim to breathe. A woman can live without her healthy uterus, but her metabolism and pelvic architecture is negatively affected by it's removal for the rest of her life.
Any surgery on the bowel is potentially risky because of the potential for bacterial contamination at the surgical site. Why is your gyno promoting it for a non-life-threatening condition????
Sorry if we sound alarmist. Read Christine's book, Saving the Whole Woman. There is an amazing chapter (fully referenced from medical journals) that summarises the procedures, their benefits, risks and potential complications. You won't find such a list in any gyno's waiting room, but all the gynos know the risks. Most gynos will tell you if you ask the right questions, but it is very difficult to know what the right questions are to ask.
BTW, most of us would shake the duvet and keep pushing the feathers back to where they belong, and just treat the duvet more carefully in future. This is what we do with POP.
Cheers
Louise
mom30
February 16, 2009 - 6:41pm
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I was just wondering what
I was just wondering what exactly it was. I don't think I would ever get that done! But I just wanted to see the dr. to see why the consistency of my stools are the way they are right now. (and my hair loss, dry skin etc.) She said she would give me a ct scan of my abdomen tomorrow, just to rule out anything. (I told her to look for tumors!! she probably thought I was nuts!) She said everything looked okay when she checked the rectum out, but wanted to do a defogram and something else where they put a balloon in your rectum to check your muscle control. I really don't want these done, yuck!! Especially since I feel like I have pretty good control. It's just a consistency thing.
I've been doing chia seeds soaked in water for the last couple of days and seems to be helping with the consistency. I just hate to have to "go" when I'm not in the nice comfort of home. The chia seeds make you have to go at least once or twice a day. So far, so good.
Christine
February 16, 2009 - 8:58pm
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fluffing feathers
Your descriptions never fail to amaze me, Louise, but this one is especially lovely. A little fluffing throughout the day is SO not a big deal compared to the myriad of life-long effects of plucked, stitched and stapled feathers!
louiseds
February 16, 2009 - 9:10pm
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Didn't mean to be patronising
Hi Mom30
Sorry, didn't mean to patronise you. I know you would have known that. I mistakenly thought a newbie had posted the topic. :-)
L
mom30
February 16, 2009 - 9:26pm
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That's okay. I'm an "old
That's okay. I'm an "old lady" now to this prolapse stuff!! LOL! (me and my 33 year old self, that is!)
I really just wanted the doctor to give me some kind of xray, ct scan or whatever, just so I can see in there for myself. Make sure there is not a big something in there that nobody noticed yet. So, I asked her, 'are you sure there's not a huge tumor in there that you missed?' With that she told me to have a ct scan. So, I get to have my ct scan tomorrow. I'll be happy with that.
Christine
February 16, 2009 - 9:33pm
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bravo!
Bravo for taking charge of the situation, Candice! I will be thinking of you and please let us know how it goes...