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Connie54
June 16, 2009 - 8:44am
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Exercises
I have a cystocele and found the pelvic rocks made my cystocele worse. I had trouble with the firebreathing too making my bulge bigger. I blamed myself for not doing the exercises right, but I really think I was doing them just like the video and book showed. The only exercise I do is walk, and that seems to help, not cause problems. I didn't try the exercises and firebreathing once then give up, I tried for months. For my body, walking fairly slowly seems to be the best. I have never had surgery of any kind, I had a normal birth of my daughter many years ago with no cutting, and I don't take any hormones. I hope you get to feeling better. Connie
louiseds
June 16, 2009 - 10:18am
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DVD problems
Reka, as you are specifically having problems with one of the exercises that Christine put on the DVD, I think it is only fair that you ask her about it personally, either by phone or email. I wouldn't even comment on the difficulty you are having until I have read what Christine has to say. Christine may even answer your concerns on the Forum.
Cheers
Louise
newname
June 16, 2009 - 11:15am
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I just did not want to burden Christine with this
as I know how busy she is. I am actually not sure which exercise caused the problem (if any). As I have had surgery before (though not for prolapse) I think that that must cause the problem...
Thanks,
Reka
Christine
June 16, 2009 - 11:48am
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{{{{Reka}}}}
Hi Reka,
I’m so sorry you are having these difficulties! It is never a burden to talk about any and all problems. The entire purpose of this work is to get to the truth of female anatomy and the only way to do it is to take into consideration everyone’s experiences.
If your trouble was indeed caused by the exercises, at least it suggests one thing - that the exercises did what they were designed to do, which is to move the uterus well into its anteverted position. The uterus is the “ceiling” of the vagina and when it moves all the way forward, the vaginal walls are pulled up as well.
I cannot know how your c-section changed the condition of your pelvic interior, nor whether nerves and organs are being impinged somehow. There is actually very little muscle in the lower abdominal wall - only the rectus muscles and the small pyramidalis under which exists a large, thick layer of white connective tissue made up of the tendons of all the “flank” muscles (obliques and transverse abdominis). I think very little investigation has occurred into the long term effects of scar tissue in this area.
I think you should see your doctor for a consult, but I would also rest with your head and upper back elevated on pillows. This places your body in a wide V position so that it is more difficult for intraabdominal pressure to act upon the uterus to antevert it. It very well may become unstuck - if its being stuck is even the issue. I must say, Reka, that your description of your cervix “clawing” at your back vaginal wall is kind of intense and I’m wondering if you’re having a bit of an anxiety attack over this.
All of the seated spinal exercises in FAFP are drawn straight from classic kundalini yoga , only made more appropriate for female anatomy by making sure we come forward on the in-breath. I believe to my toes that in no way can they be harmful for a healthy woman who has not had surgery.
I must reiterate that I believe Connie is having a difficult time seeing results because her regular use of a sedative drug is chronically relaxing her connective tissue.
Take a deep breath, darlin’, and rest. I think your doctor needs to take a look to see if it can be determined what is causing the discomfort.
{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}
Christine
newname
June 16, 2009 - 3:32pm
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Thank you very much Christine!
Actually just to admit it that there is a problem already helps. I have come such a long way since the birth of my beautiful daughter. This is why it is hard to take that there is a setback.
I am so used to being well and doing absolutely everything (including running, lifting children, etc.) and showing a happy face that it actually took two months before I admitted to dh that something was wrong beyond the occasional bad day. Just that admission made me feel better. And now telling you about the problem again made things look better. It is such a relief.
I will again get better. I have to rest now. Probably I should also see a doctor (although I mistrust them all so much!).And if I am objective I have to say that it is so much better to have trouble inside me than when something wants to come out :-)
Thanks again, I am very grateful to you all,
Reka
clavicula
June 19, 2009 - 6:57am
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Reka,
Wow, i guess the same thing happened to me-but I reported it as a success here. See, how different we are?
I always had a retroverted even retroflexed uterus. My cervix pointed towards my anterior wall even during pregnancy (which Cristine highly doubted and I totally understand why) and sometimes I found it at the top of my vaginal canal-not good!
Since starting the postural work (almost 3 months, I have just begun this journey) this was my first success: my all over the place uterus finally had found her place on the top of my bladder, my cervix now always points towards my back wall, sometimes a bit up, but hey, who cares, at least it is not down! lol
Do I feel different? Sure, I do! I am more aware of any urine in my bladder, but I know it is normal. I also feel more pressure-but I think it is not a problem, just some anatomical change my body will get used to sooner or later. I really feel that with the posture I carry my organs differently now, and my nerves and fasciae and muscles will adapt eventually.
What you described: yeah, I feel this every time I empty my bladder on all my fours and check my insides, my uterus is "severely" anteverted. But IMO it is good! My front wall is pulled up also.
I guess the uterus is the key here. An anteverted uterus will never come down, and will keep the bladder in place.
Did you try Nauli? This breathing really has some repositioning effect!
So, I'd say, don't worry. :)
Liv
kiki
June 20, 2009 - 2:30pm
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cycles
HI Reka,
wondering if you've noticed a difference throughout the month?
I recently saw a Natural Family Planning practitioner, who said one thing to notice was the position of the cervix. when you ovulate it is usually straighter, and after you ovulate it's tilted. i'd never noticed before, but started watching and sure enough, after i ovulated, it was pointing far back. only a few days before it had been much straighter.
don't know if there is any difference for you?