When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
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Katya2
September 5, 2009 - 2:00pm
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Grieve for the princess no more
I felt exactly the same - and now it doesn't bother me either. I think it's because it's the opposite of the fairytale. It seems like the world has fooled you because nobody warns you about this AT ALL - it's almost a punishment for the hard work/mothering you've done - and like the days of being a pampered princess (which I was kind of waiting to come back) are completely over. Not just because you don't physically feel the part but because those people you would run to - especially husband or even dad, are not the people you would want to go into detail with about this. I told myself that this may be true to some extent - but I'd rather be a queen, someone that has to suffer but is brave and looks after herself and everyone around her - and is proud of those scars - and still strong and beautiful.
lyricmama
September 5, 2009 - 7:27pm
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I don't know about you
I don't know about you ladies, but I felt like the cutest damn pregnant lady. After the first trimester (I was puking at least six times a day) I had a great pregnancy. I then had a great birth. It was fast and exciting and really easy and on my due date. I felt like a fertility goddess....then I looked at my vagina 4 weeks pp, and the rug was pulled out from under my feet. I felt DEFORMED. I thought "Hey, everything else was perfect, why am I not recovering perfectly?" Then the catastrophizing started. I started imagining my entire bladder and bowels and uterus hanging out. I would read medical texts that say things like "pelvic organ prolapse can cause severe emotional distress and social isolation" SOCIAL ISOLATION? What? I imagined myself becoming an outcast(LOL). I have never been through such crazy emotional ups and downs in my life. It was truly the most upsetting thing I have ever experienced. My dad thinks it's so hard because it's deeply disturbing when your organs move around. But, I have to say that if my heart moved, but still worked ok, it would be different. I could talk about it openly at dinner parties.
Anyway, now it doesn't bother me anymore. There is light at the end of the emotional tunnel!
bad_mirror
September 5, 2009 - 10:59pm
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Well for me
I think my experience is similar to yours. I had an amazing pregnancy, utterly enjoyable. I had exactly the birth I wanted; it was fantastic! Then, dun dun dun, I looked. And the looking made me aware of sensation, and well, we know how it goes from there . . . . I thought I had done everything *right* to avoid such a thing! I was an athlete (professional ballerina), healthy as a horse, sought out a home birth in water (I didn't even have an ultra-sound I was so into being intervention-free!) and really rested well following the birth. Small tear, no cuts. I too thought I was, as you phrased it, a fertility goddess. Then, blam. It has been an emotional tunnel indeed. With a rollercoaster inside! Yet the "light" grows stronger by the day. And, like you, I thank God that this happened to me now. So maybe the thirty odd years of doing whatever it was to make me prone to prolapse can be corrected in the next thirty years, and at menopause I'll be free of worry about POP.
I have so enjoyed your posts over the last few days! I'm just loving how you word things. Thank you!
fruitful womb
September 8, 2009 - 1:01am
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menopause
"...and at menopause I'll be free of worry about POP."
Just wondering, does menopause make things better for POP?
For me, I've contemplated medication to help eliminate the depression caused by my POP. Then I think (because I was on depression meds in my late teens) did those meds cause or contribute to this POP?
I try my best to stay positive. For some reason when I have a negative emotional day brought on by my POP I feel it getting worse.
louiseds
September 8, 2009 - 9:07am
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menopause worse?
I don't think so. I think my periods have stopped and with it the monthly turmoil. Everything is quiet now, hormone-wise, so I don't get the week of heaviness before a period. I am getting a little more urge incontinence, but I think that is a menopause thing, rather than a POP thing, but UI may be the thing that gives POP such a bad rap with menopause. I am better in my head too. I was a bit shaky there for a while last year, but I am fine now, so I don't get the constipation that goes with worrying and anxiety.
I would have to say that my POP's are better than they were last year. See what the next couple of decades brings.
Louise
bad_mirror
September 8, 2009 - 9:28am
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that quote
I meant that (hopefully) thirty years of giving my organs the best opportuity to be in place through posture, etc, will prevent any sudden worsening. Or else, I have thirty years to come to terms with it mentally.
louiseds
September 8, 2009 - 8:39pm
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A lifetime is a long time. I
A lifetime is a long time. I didn't realise this until I hit about fifty, and realised that half my life could still be in front of me. Wow! I didn't understand that when I had little kids. It makes me realise that a young woman has limited ability to make the decision about having surgical repairs because she does not have the perspective to see how long she is going to have to live with that decision. You can hope that there will be a satisfactory long term outcome of the surgery, but you cannot guarantee a good result. I am not much of a risk taker in that regard. But I am going fine as I am, so I don't even think about surgery these days.
L
sunset82
October 1, 2009 - 11:46am
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fear
My biggest thing, besides the emotional side of it, was the fear. I've had this condition for almost 10 yrs. now and in all that time no doctor has ever said "This will not kill you." So here I am thinking that if it gets worse and my insides come out, I will die. Talk about the fear and uncertainty that comes with believing this could kill me! I don't know why I didn't think to just ask someone. I just assumed. Anyway, what a relief to discover this will not kill me. There are still some days that are difficult emotionally.