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sadiedog
October 27, 2009 - 7:38pm
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Joy..I swear I tell every one about my "turning inside out". THe shock factor is amazing. I have just always been like that. THe radiologist I work with and I joke about it all the time. It feels so good to talk about it. Maybe in my neck of the forest women won't be so shy aobut it!!!!
I was going to puchace the DVD...I take it you think it is worth it?! Does it do the whole ballet routine?
I am thinking about taking classes at the center at this junction, because like you I ma wondering if I am doing everything right and wondering about laying positions. Interesting to think about it and what goes on inside in differnt positions.........I would think laying on you tummy would be best but that hurts my back. That way all the organs would be forward.
sadiedog
thejoybird
October 28, 2009 - 10:39am
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Yes, it actually has two ballet workouts (beginner and advanced). It is a lot of money, but I have a hard time finding the info any where else, and if it can save me the cost of surgery then it's worth it. It is nice to be able to see someone modeling the WW position. Laying on my stomach hurts my back too.
Christine
October 28, 2009 - 6:56pm
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hello Joy
...and welcome to you! Although not a common complaint, this ache does not surprise me given that the posture pulls the vagina into its natural axis. Let's hope it resolves with time. I think there are probably more and less supportive sleeping positions for the health of your spine, but because the pelvis and all its ligaments are "unwound" when lying down, I really don't think sleep position is an important factor in prolapse reversal. The work gets done when we're standing and sitting up straight. That is when the front vaginal wall clamps down firmly against the back wall, creating a closed, airless space that normally is protected against intraabdominal pressure. Of course, we all have compromised versions of this anatomy and the work is to recreate it as much as possible - which for many women is perfectly adequate.
My goodness - I just realized you are only 27 years old. My hope is that you will see complete reversal. It may take a full year but trust you have a blueprint that has built into it the ability to reverse these symptoms.
:) Christine
clavicula
October 29, 2009 - 10:36am
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Hello, Joy
Same thing here. As for me, I know why I feel this (okay, I admit, it is not a pain for me, rather a stretchy feeling). I had 3 episiotomies/tears, all on the right side of my vagina. If I am in WW posture (sit or stand), I would feel this tension or stretching in the scar tissue, and it goes up into my vagina, right side. Maybe this is happening to you too. I know, it is not always easy to distinguish different feelings, pains, etc.
Take care!
Oh, and just for the record, I discovered my prolapse when I was 28. You definietly do not have to be an old lady to have this. And you'll deal with this.
Liv
sadiedog
October 29, 2009 - 12:48pm
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DVD
So that would be the First Aid for Prolapse DVD? It would be even cheaper ti by the DVD!!! Thanks joybird
Ribbit
January 24, 2010 - 9:37pm
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Laying posture
I have to put a pillow between my knees. Actually, I use a body pillow. I put one end behind my low back and bottom, and pull the other end up between my knees. That way I can totally relax without putting a strain on anything.
I like to lay on my back with the pillow doubled over under my knees, but for some very odd reason I tend to have nightmares if I'm sleeping on my back, so I don't do it often.
I do have a question though. It feels really good to sleep curled up in a C-shape. It stretches out my low back. Is it okay to lay that way?
louiseds
January 26, 2010 - 4:09am
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c-lie
Cant see a problem. Gravity is working sideways, adn there isn't a heap of intraabdominal pressure when you are sleeping anyway, apart from relaxed breathing.
heavenly
September 24, 2010 - 12:19pm
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A pillow or not a pillow, that is the question?LOL
Just want to make a comment . Someone, and I believe it was Christine, when we had a consult on the phone in the beginning we discussed sleeping. She made the point to say if you are sleeping on your side it is ok with a pillow but on your back, better to have no pillow. I have found that this is so true. Take the pillow out from behind your head and lay flat and see the difference. I find you can almost feel everything open up. It is a great feeling for me. I almost feel set free. It took a while to get used to it but I am fine now. With the pillow it feels like the pelvic area is pushing back against my spine.
Food for thought for ya all!
Heavenly
louiseds
September 25, 2010 - 12:38am
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pillow or not?
I agree, Heavenly. I have several different pillows on the go all the time. One of them is a foam contoured pillow, that I have carved the underside of, so that my head is almost flat, but it has a little neck support, so I feel more relaxed. I just fold it in half when I flip onto my side, so it is higher. Another is one of those horrible crumbled foam pillows that I can punch into shape for either back or side sleeping. I sometimes use a feather pillow too. It is not as obedient as the crumbled foam pillow, but it doesn't have the little lumps that the foam pillow has. I think a variety of pillows is a good move because it means that I am not spending all my nights sleeping in the same position.
Louise