When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
Technology never sleeps, however, and we have better tools today for controlling spam than we did just a few years ago. So I am very excited and pleased to bring the forum back online.
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louiseds
January 25, 2010 - 10:00pm
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fascia grafts
Hi Badmirror
I wish it were that simple, but surgical repairs of any sort are still surgical repairs, and often not much like the awesome original version. Anyway, the body needs all of its own fascia. Where would you take it from? Found this site the other day, www.anatomytrains.com . I gained an enormous amount of understanding of fascia from it. Our bodies are indeed a miracle.
Cheers
Louise
bad_mirror
January 25, 2010 - 10:13pm
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getting fascia
From cadavers? Pigs? Same sources as we get for skin grafts or heart valves or other sundry parts. I dunno. You're right, nothing is as good as the original, I know :-) Thanks for the website -- I'm very interested to check it out!
Christine
January 25, 2010 - 11:36pm
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grafts
Well, her framework is a bit narrow, but at least she’s considering a reasonable etiology. It’s true that epidurals pave the way for the typical cascade of obstetric intervention. I think Michel Odent has the most accurate take on the matter: the more we interfere with human birth, the worse off humanity becomes. The human perineum should be sacrosanct and it will never garner that level of respect until enough women insist upon it.
By far the most common story is the woman who is two, three, and more weeks postpartum who feels something amiss and decides to reach for the mirror - eeeekk!! If the birth experience itself was the whole story, she would’ve discovered her condition immediately. Therefore, something in those postpartum weeks must be factored into the equation. We believe a major contributing factor is that her natural pelvic organ support system was not adequately supported by posture and lifestyle.
Biologic fascia types are used often in vaginal colporrhaphy surgery. They were dropped years ago in favor of polypropylene, but re-introduced when the synthetics proved so problematic. They tend to be absorbed by the body and so theoretically lose their “supportive” function. The paradigm of "strong" vaginal walls is so off the mark!
WoundHealer
April 11, 2016 - 12:49pm
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DermaPure new TIssue Product
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Christine
April 11, 2016 - 7:53pm
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The procedures themselves are misconceived!
A&P repairs were never successful, and that is why transvaginal mesh was introduced in an attempt to "strengthen" the vaginal walls. Polypropylene (plastic) mesh was developed and aggressively marketed because the biological meshes break down and are eventually absorbed by the body.
However, even if a 100% compatible mesh were developed, it wouldn't alter the fact that the operations themselves are fraught with risk and failure. The vagina is a flattened tube that protects itself from prolapse by remaining flattened toward the front and away from the outlet at the back. A&P repairs are based on the highly erroneous perspective of a soft tissue "floor" underneath the body upon which the pelvic organs are supported. The "hole" at the bottom of the "floor" must be made stronger, tighter, and smaller so the organs can't fall through. It is an egregiously wrong concept that has harmed countless women over the past century.
I have no doubt this is spam, and WoundHealer peddling the surgical solution with all the help she can get from the AMA and FDA.
Christine