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aza
June 28, 2010 - 12:31am
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Hi Blissfulsinger, Welcome
Hi Blissfulsinger,
Welcome back and I have lots to say but am time poor at the moment, so here are some links on vaginal birth after multiple sections to get you started:
http://www.homebirth.org.uk/vba2c.htm
http://www.onetruemedia.com/otm_site/view_shared?p=2a4e81fbf0f66accb8afc...
http://joyousbirth.info/forums/showthread.php?t=29970
The added considerations of your previous 'repairs' may or may not be an added consideration. If you care to let us know (or you can PM me) where you are geographically I might be able to tap into some people in the VBAC / homebirth community to help you out.
Sorry to be so brief ;)
blissfulsinger
June 28, 2010 - 6:14am
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VBAC Resources
Hi and thank you for the links and the reply... there are some new ones there, I will definitely check them out. I am going to make an appointment today with our local midwives service for an evaluation to see if they will consider my a candidate for vbac/homebirth; I have no time to lose if I am setting up a homebirth lol. I do have some resources here, (just not hospital which is probably ok) it's just that as I have looked for help in the past there is NO information on the interaction of those prior non-birth surgeries and how they might interact. It has just been assumed that I must have a c-section, period.
I'm in the US, Ohio. :-)
Hugs & Blessings,
Jennifer
granolamom
June 28, 2010 - 3:50pm
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hi jennifer!
I most certainly do remember you......congratulations on the pg!!!
surprise babies are the best : )
and a group of four is truly a blessing!
I know very very little about c-sections (though yours sound just awful) and I know very little about the risk of vbac with prolapse 'repairs'. don't know if the mesh, etc would prevent normal stretching of the tissues to allow for the birth. or would the stitches pop? honestly, I don't know.
as far as general vbacs, alemama is a wellspring of information. you might also want to check out ICAN (dont' know their website, but I'm sure you can google it)
aside from this concern, I hope you're feeling well and can enjoy your pg
Christine
June 28, 2010 - 6:45pm
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Hi Jennifer!
Congratulations on your pregnancy! I think it's a good sign that you've come this far without serious issues like urinary retention. You must not have had a tvt, which is a blessing. I agree with gmom, though, that the outcome cannot be predicted. It would be helpful to know what surgical work was done initially. I have made a concerted effort not to use words like "lift" and "tack" because they only obscure our understanding and keep us in a position of lesser power. Do you know the medical names for the procedures you had done and have you read your op reports?
:) Christine
blissfulsinger
June 28, 2010 - 10:32pm
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Hi Christine!
Hi Christine,
I had a repair using sling mesh (goretex) that grafted my uterus to my backbone. I was told by my surgeon that he would do a "Foji Pouch" repair on my bladder and bowel... I had enterocele, rectocele, and cysctocele repair as well as the uterine procedure described above. My surgeries were partially transvaginal, partially through the abdominal wall. I call the vaginal vault surgery a "tack" because that is the language my doctor used and he told me not to expect it to stay since there really wasn't much to anchor it to. :-/
I had read the reports... I have them. I will see if I can unearth them and find the technical language but hopefully this will give us a start towards understanding. I am moving very very slowly these days; baby boy is breech posterior and I am having lots of PSD pain and sciatica.
Thanks for any help you can offer. My family is very very worried about my even interest in attempting anything other than a c-section. I do realize that unless I can get baby to turn (there's still time) I stand a repeat of the nightmare birth I had with my first child, and that's assuming I manage to birth vaginally with the added stresses I have now. Posterior breech is nasty... and already happened to me once. So... I guess I start working on accepting "good" surgery as opposed to "being cut on." :-/
Thank you again,
Jennifer
Christine
July 2, 2010 - 2:24pm
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surgical management
It's impossible to know, Blissful, but I think given the extent of your "repairs", and therefore scar tissue, that surgical management is probably the best way forward.
I pray for the peaceful and successful birth of your beautiful son.
Christine