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Christine
October 17, 2010 - 6:03pm
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whole body support and stabilization
Hi Louise,
I think it might be easiest to think of the pelvic floor muscles as extensions of the RA. Yes, the pubococcygeous muscles connect to the coccyx with what is called the levator plate. They might be considered one long set of muscles from lower jaw to tailbone, which happen to wrap around the pubic bones. They are synergistic rather than antagonistic, therefore it’s difficult to contract one without the other.
The paraspinal muscles act antagonistically with the abdominals, which we can feel by rocking the pelvis to and fro. The pulling forward of your tailbone that you feel is the tug-o-war between these two muscle groups.
My theory is that prolapsed women will ultimately teach the world of biomechanical science about pelvic stability, which all comes down to how intraabdominal pressure flows through the body. What is all this business about contracting the transverse abdominals, when it is their elongation that allows extension of the ribcage and lumbar spine?? It is a mystery to me how the world got so hung up on core stability. Oh yeah, the flat belly. :-/
Muscles are surely of primary importance in stabilizing the spine, but what about the contribution of the organs? When you breathe in, your lower ribs are significantly elevated and your organs pushed down and forward by the respiratory diaphragm. What stops that motion is resistance of the internal organs. The literature always says the abdominal organs, but we can sense that it is our bladder and uterus pressing into the lowest part of the abdominal wall that is the true resistance end-point.
If this one “little” concept were taught to women on a grand scale - as kegels have been taught - then women would be breathing their organs into their lower bellies, rather than trying to suck them up from an imaginary floor.
Cheers,
Christine
Christine
October 17, 2010 - 6:27pm
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I mean...
agonistic, not synergistic. :)
Christine
October 17, 2010 - 7:31pm
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no...
synergistic is accurate.
louiseds
October 18, 2010 - 1:02am
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how the muscles work together
I think your comments all illustrate that we are one big structural system. Some of it is made of fascia and ligament, some is made of bone and some of muscle. They lever against each other to produce movement and stability.
Muscles can act synertistically, or as agonists or antagonists, but, because of the triangulated nature of all stable structures there are always more three structural members at work where there is stability. You cannot look at one muscle, bone or ligamentous structure in isolation. That is like clapping with one hand.
That's why these three words might all be right at different moments in time.
Lets just say that they are all in intimate relationship with each other and the skeleton and fascia, and they all have direct and indirect effects on each other.
L