Chiropractic Intervention

Submitted by keh on July 19, 2011 - 5:58am
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Hello Fellow POPers.

I so appreciate all the posts. I recognize many of my own symptoms in your posts, so I find comfort in the company. My symptoms surfaced five weeks ago, and I was in a total emotional funk until this last weekend, when I think I started crawling out of the emotional hole. I can identify with the sadness expressed by many of you. It also helps that my symptoms have improved significantly since I started maintaining the WW posture. I find the standing posture so much easier than the sitting posture. No furniture in the 21st century is made for us!

And, Louise, thank you for the info. on the cushion you bought at an auto accessory shop. I hadn't thought of it, but I went right out and found one very similar to the one you described. It has made a world of difference in my car experience.

Kiwigirl, you mentioned in a post you would provide directions for making BlissBalm. I would love to get that info. Can you post it?

Here is another issue. I have been battling what I think is tendonitis in my right elbow, as well as a lingering ache/pain in my right knee which I have assumed was arthritis. On the advice of a friend, I saw a chiropractor yesterday about the tendonitis (my first-ever trip to a chiropractor). I also told her about my prolapse (bladder).

Here is her take: Everything is connected (I certainly can buy that!). She thinks the elbow, the knee and the prolapse are all connected; they are all on the L7 (C7? some 7) neural pathway. She believes she can significantly improve the prolapse. Has anybody tried chiropractic intervention for prolapse?? And, if so, what have been the results?? Any info. would be appreciated.

keh

Christine

July 19, 2011 - 10:31am

...like acupuncture, PT, massage and cranial-sacral therapy, I believe chiropractic can be of some benefit in helping the body realign toward symmetry, balance, strength and flexibility. However, going to any practitioner once or twice a week pales in comparison to living in our true pelvic organ support system. I realize you are not suggesting chiropractic as a substitute for the postural work, but I thought I might take the opportunity to remind women (again - lol) that only we can do this work.

A severe prolapse can be such an up and down affair!! I feel terrific physically this week, only because I keep doing the work. When things are really bad (remember, I do not have 'natural' prolapse), then I bring out the big guns - flax oil, cotton balls - whatever it takes. But I never stop holding my body in this way (except when resting, of course) and eventually my symptoms improve. I have gone through that loop a thousand times and so have many of the regulars here.

I think women should go to the practitioners they are drawn to (massage is my preferred adjunct therapy) because only through trial and error will they learn what works best - with an occasional WW lecture thrown in for good measure. :)

Amel

July 19, 2011 - 11:17am

Hi Keh
No I haven't tried that but I do go to a cranial osteopath mostly because he is gentle and put my shoulder girdle right when my neck and shoulders packed up once; you're so right about everything being connected.. I carried too much on them that time and too heavy a load plus a lot of coughing produced the Pop later on I'm sure. When I had shingles the year before the Pop arrived the chap traced the nerves from my neck where the rash came out in the same way your medic did. I find he is helping again. I think in my case Pop was a gradual process over years and I should have looked out for myself a bit better than I did...am making up for it now. Hope you are too!
Keep up the good work and may our Pops rise to where they belong ere long.
I have a couple of wedge (comfy) seats too which I take around with me
especially to Church where seats are about three inches wide. Kneeling's good though.
All the best
Amel

kiwigirl

July 20, 2011 - 4:16am

Hi Yeh,Just a bit of info in case you don't know that we use to be able to buy a special blend from this site called Bliss Balm. It had organic mix of coconut oil, oilive oil, beeswax, and then some other herbs and things I couldn't find here and a little geranium rose oil .It took me awhile to like it better than Sylk, which I bought from the chemist, which is natural and made in NZ.Everything else I was sensitive to.The last thing on my mind at the time was making my own!But needs must, so I started searching here for posts with those words..Bliss Balm..in them and Alemama said what the basic ingredients were.I looked in Christine's kitchen where she has a video showing her making Red Clover balm. Just to get the idea of what to do.But my needs are small so I had to work out and break down the amounts.
So here goes with how I make it .So far I have made 3 batches since 22 October 2010. Each batch has been different as after the first batch I had a bit leftover so added that to the second batch, not very helpful for giving you quantities is it?
I roughly worked out that 600mls(1pint) of fluid to 45gms (1 1/2oz) beeswax.You want the consistency , when the above 3 ingredients are slowly melted together, to stick to the back of a wooden spoon or to a stick eg.
My first batch was:-
400gms of coconut oil(this is runny in warm weather and hard in cold weather)
275gms(or is that mls, I weighed on my gms scale in a jug) olive oil &
67gms beeswax.
When melted I added a few drops of rose and lavender oil. But I have since changed that to 3 of rose geranium instead.
Pour into sterilised containers , preferably glass.
To sterilise , wash the containers in hot soapy water, rinse in hot water then put in an oven about 110-120 I think for 3/4 minutes.
Fill to within 1/2in of top.Leave to cool a little beofre putting lids on.
I have no measurements on my containers. But hazarding a guess Ive filled the original Bliss Balm jar(200gms?), plus a bigger one of 300gms and 3 small jam jars like you get travelling eg on the plane. They are possibly 40-50gms.
As you can see I had a higher ratio of the beeswax in that first batch.My next 2 batches Ive fiddled around with and they all work.Now its winter here the last batch was quite hard ,but as I wash my hands in hot water before I put some on my finger, it quickly melts with body heat. Put a small dob on the end of your middle finger and insert as far as you can , like you would say a tampon, except its your finger .
NB: it does leave a slightly oily residue on underwear, so either use a pantyliner or wear cheapies you can replace every now and then.I can't feel any sense of when it's in, so for me thats great, as the ones with chemicals in I feel a tingle and uncomfortable.
let me know how it goes if you make it.And ask any more questions if its not clear enough.:-)

kiwigirl

July 20, 2011 - 4:33am

Hi again keh, I have been going to chiros for 25 years and took my 3 children, they are now grownup and still go. I have had problems with my right side this year from my head to feet.Also connected to my lower back I think L4/5. Im not sure if its helping my pop as Ive had to go because the exercises/posture here I must have been doing wrongly and have set my scoliosis off ,so Ive stopped the exercises for a bit but continue the posture, hopefully better now- Ive relooked so many times at the demo of it.
We have a choice of chiros so over the years I have tried them all.Had to when preferred one was too busy.My present chiro has read Christine's book and working with me... it will be awhile before I have anything to report back.
Earlier this year there was a poster here who was trying some radical chiro treatment(internal) we hadn't heard of before and was going to report back.
Louise may remember who? or the poster may read this as we'd love to hear back if it worked for her...
Summary is I love our chiro's they are very open and forward thinking.Other women have tried accupuncture and reflexology. I have, but just a little.Ive just started the reflexology for pop to see how that goes.I have more energy since I started :-)

granolamom

July 20, 2011 - 2:02pm

I went to a chiro when I developed an occipital neuralgia.
coincidentally, after seeing him a few times a week for a few weeks, my chronic shoulder bursitis disappeared. and my heel bursitis. and the cysts in my wrist. I had these problems for years, so I really do think chiro had something to do with it.
however, I found my POP a few months after starting chiro and I didnt see real improvement in the prolapse department until I had already stopped seeing the chiro regularly and started with WW.
I think chiro cannot hurt (assuming you go to someone who knows what they are doing...I have seen pretty bad injuries due to bad chiropracters when I was working in PT) the prolapse. maybe it will help.
agree though, that the real work is what we do all day long...standing and breathing our prolapses into place. maybe chiro will make that easier for you to accomplish.
and I totally think chiro can help your tendonitis

keh

July 27, 2011 - 12:04pm

THANK YOU, granolamom, kiwigirl, amel and Christine, for all the info. on your experiences with chiropractic treatment. I am still muddling over the decision to pursue it. I think it may have more effect on my scoliosis than on pop, but spine improvement could improve a lot of things. And, kiwigirl, thanks so much for sharing your recipe for Bliss Balm. I will try it. This site is amazingly helpful.
-keh

blissedout

August 1, 2011 - 5:18am

Hi
Please could you send info re the car seat you found - this has been my worst problem since rectocele surgery, the discomfort when standing up again being indescribable!

Have tried a foam cushion with no centre but not terribly effective! - I agree that all fascia is interconnected and this is the problem particularly following surgery that new strains are set up and pulling / aching etc all over the body is a consequence ( page 29 of 'saving the wholewoman'!

Many thanks

Blissedout

louiseds

August 1, 2011 - 8:17am

Have a look at my post under this topic, http://www.wholewoman.com/drupal-6.16/node/3983 .

Louise