Just like a three-year-old girl

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Hi everyone,

I just read Christine's post about "The end of the neutral pelvis - Part 1" and it reminded me of something.

Last year when I found this site, I was explaining to my mother about the whole woman posture. She watched and listened as I demonstrated, then said, "So the right posture is just like C's [my daughter] posture!"

We looked at C, running around at three years old in her undies. Mum was exactly right. Her back is beautifully straight and long with an evident lumbar curve, shoulders down and proud, and whole abdomen relaxed and full-looking. No straining, no forcing, just completely natural.

I hope she never loses that.

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The truth is all around us if we'll just let go of our preconceptions. Thanks for the validation, Kiko!

Hi,
Thanks for sharing that lovely insight Koko.
It's true the truth is there in reality. Although I have to admit I keep having to reassure myself of this fact in the face of so much conventional perception of the spine. I was trying to explain the natural curve of the lumbar spine to a friend and experienced yoga teacher recently - and after I'd described ww perspective as best I could, she went on to describe young girls as having that 'awful lower back curvature'! I thought to myself - "This may take some time!"
:) wholeowomanuk

Years ago (On the forum before this one) I took a photo of my then 3yr old daughter who was stood in her perfect posture... My Mother after that said to her to pull her tummy in and stuff and I gave my Mom a talking to about how perfect her posture was already! My Mother listened and learned.

We need to look at our daughters and copy their stand - Not them copy ours...

And as they grow into young women, we impart lessons learned here - So their daughters and all daughters after them will have the knowledge - To be passed on along the timeline of humanity - That women, are strong, and whole, and will share the knowledge to all other women making them all strong :-)

Here, here!! Couldn't agree with you more. As my daughters grow I will be imparting this knowledge to them. Hopefully they will listen, sometimes their peers have more influence, but I will always tell them to stand Tall and proud ....not straight and tall! Big difference.
Lindy

I remember that pic you shared, MM&I! It was a perfect example of perfect posture (and a beautiful young girl too)

So I am on the edge of my seat waiting for the book and DVD!!! I want to get started and have been working on my posture for a few days. Do I contract and pull up my tummy and do a kegel type contraction while arching the lumbar? Or should I relax the front pelvic amd tummy? Thanks for any info.

Relax the lower belly and pull the chest up. Shoulders down, but not pulled back. Lumbar curve will take care of itself. Forget the Kegel thingie.

Hi surviving60!!! I thought I replied earlier but don't see the comment! This is so helpful. I could feel I was doing somethIng wrong. It's amazing how trained I am to suck in my abs and pull up! This feels better how you've explained it and is liberating! I hope this works ... My fingers are crossed!

A funny thing happened a couple of days while I was standing in the kitchen waiting for the microwave to go beep. I checked my WW posture and decided to try and get my body to do my old zip and tuck posture from eight years ago.

You know, I couldn't do it! My muscle memory didn't know how to pull it all together. It was hilarious! Needless to say, I didn't keep trying. So, you see, WW posture does eventually become automatic.

I have just turned 59 years old, so you can teach an old dog new tricks!

Louise

Hi Louise! I showed my mom my old posture and it was like my life force was shut down ... I won't be showing anybody again! Only a description. I am SO insanely happy and grateful to come across this info. I have shared it with my healer / guru and she said all of her prolapse patients are frozen in the pelvis. She is going to read the info and share with her other patients I am thrilled to say. I also think in reading more about the uterus that this posture will help resolve my ovarian cyst as my breathing is much fuller and deeper.

It is only a matter of time until health workers and professionals take on Christine's theories, which are all grounded in anatomy and anthropology. But first they have to be able to accept that the model of female pelvic anatomy that they learned is incomplete and can be very misleading. This is what so many of them have difficulty with.

I talked about pop with my new Chiro., and he said he's dealt with it all. I spoke of the importance of the curve in the lower back which he knows. He was surprised to think it should be any other way. I'm grateful. Last time I had this kind of health care, I wasn't aware of pop. My xrays show a nice curve, with one area that is off and would effect all my female organs. So, maybe more miracles are at hand. Again, I'm very grateful to have this forum and all the information/connections. (:

I still remember being told, at about five, to 'pull my tummy in' and the feeling of strain the first time I tried to do it. There's nothing natural about it.. I went my entire adult life lamenting my lack of a bottom, feeling it made me look old and wondering why I had back trouble. Since the ww posture has become second nature people have commented on me 'looking younger somehow' , I have no more back pain and I definitely feel I look sexier. MY belly also looks a whole lot better naked than the zipped and tucked post children version I had before: flat but definitely not firm. Now it's firmly rounded.

When my daughter's ballet teacher jokingly told her she would 'bite her bum off' if she saw it sticking out again - my heart sank. At least the gymnastics she now does instead encourages a lumbar curve.

What makes older women in jeans and trousers look old ? The zipped and tucked bottom! Okay - losing flesh post menopause is I suppose normal, it's more a question of posture. I've got a nice 'African' bottom now without gaining any weight, and I love it.

(Sorry - that's not meant to be offensive to anyone - could it be?)

Dreamer8, that was an interesting observation by your new chiro, and in fact, it makes me a little angry with him! He basically agrees with WW posture, and yet claims not be aware that it is the opposite of what women are taught about posture all their lives? Where has he been, and why isn't he out there advocating for the lumbar curve? Same for Doubtful's daughter's gymnastics instruction.....they aren't being taught to suck it in and tuck it under.....so why is WW posture so ignored and challenged if chiropractors and gymnasts are agreeing with it?

Chiros had bad press, in Australia at least, for many years. I guess they just learned to keep their heads down, and just get on with helping people to get their bodies sorted out. At least he has the right idea. He sounds supportive, and I think that is a good start. I think Dreamer will go well with him. Hope so.

L