Hip soreness and Seated Position with Cello

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Hello again Dear Lovely Ladies,
Once again a huge thank you to Christine and to all of you....for being here for each other and for sharing your wisdom. Thank you to Surviving for your responses to my questions. I am reading and doing the exercises with video now (first day today since I have just received my bundle and can now get started with this part). I am obsessively trying WW posture constantly for one week now (I have another 3 weeks before I have a dr diagnosis. My hip joints are very sore, especially when first getting up in the morning. This is new this week. Does anyone have experience with this? I am thinking that it is because I am still adjusting to the WW posture but I would love to know if anyone else has this issue. I am 60, was used to a 3 mile walk every morning and some yoga (which I have stopped now until I have the posture and Christine's exercises well balanced in my life so that I know better what is safe to do). The walks I continue with each day but I am constantly thinking of this new position and maybe it is causing both the hips and upper back to get very sore and tired. Maybe I am overdoing it. Is the lumbar curve we are working on the same curve as what is described by some dancers and some pts as the neutral spine? or are we working on developing a more exaggerated curve or simply the curve that our body will do naturally with a relaxed belly and lifted chest? I posted earlier on the difficulty in finding my seated position with the cello (I teach many hours each day and this is really my biggest hurdle right now). I have raised the height of the chair which I think is helping but the tiredness I feel in my back (both lower and upper back) and I feel a bulge in the vaginal area. As long as the belly is relaxed and the curve is there, do you think this is still okay? I am not sitting for long periods now but get up every ten minutes or so but in order to demonstrate and accompany my students, I must find a seated position that I can function with and still honor the WW seated position with cello. Maybe the fact that it leans on the chest is also an issue right now. I greatly appreciate any thoughts. Thank you so much.

Forum:

Hello MsNightingale,

In the WW work, we're mindful to walk with feet pointing straight ahead, yet we exercise using hip turnout. This builds strength in the muscles surrounding the hip joints, which are often quite atrophied in women. Intraabdominal pressure works to either pin the organs toward the front of the body, or push them toward the back - depending on lumbar curvature. This is a total body posture that never "tries" to curve the lumbar spine but, as you suggest, allows it to expand on its own by how we lift the chest and hold the head and shoulders. Please see my blog posts on the neutral pelvis to understand more about this important difference.

I can see that playing the cello could offer an opportunity for deep WW postural work if you were playing
more like this, yet be very hard on your pelvic anatomy and your spine if you play in
this kind of posture.

There are also images of women who exhibit more turnout in their knees and feet than in their hip joints, which must be stressful on the knee joints. External rotation should come solely from the hips, with the alignment of thigh, knee, ankle and foot exactly the same as parallel.

Without being able to see you, it's impossible to know what postural factors may be causing your hip pain. All I can hope is that through this work you can learn what proper alignment is and self-correct from there. Whole Woman Yoga - The First Wheel dvd provides good information on this subject.

If I played the cello I would sit more like the first image, with my chest lifted, chin tucked, shoulders down (shoulder blades never pulled together), upper back flat and broad, lower belly relaxed over my thighs (not simply flopped out because the abdominal wall is lifted with the chest) and hips widely turned out. The knees would be as turned out as the hips and over the second and third toes. This straddle position provides for good lumbar curvature.

Place a pillow between your knees while sleeping and take the work very slowly. It is the lumbar curve that properly places the torso over your hips so that the joints are fully covered. I imagine you are experiencing both prolapse and pain because you have not been keeping either adequate turnout or full lumbar curvature.

Good luck and please let us hear of your progress.

Wishing you well,

Christine

Thank you so much for these comments. I will read this many times with care and appreciate these thoughts. I am excited to try the hips turned out with cello position as this indeed is something I have never done or ever heard done from my various teachers. Maybe through all of this we will also find a much healthier position for the music making that we do with cello! Thank you. I will study also the First Wheel now. I am ever so grateful.