firebreathing

Submitted by energeticmarg on August 17, 2012 - 10:39am
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I do firebreathing 3-4 times daily and am amazed that it does move my cystocele back up. Most days I need to use a tampon to keep it in place. I am wondering does firebreathing strengthen the abdominals and the pelvic floor as this does seem to be so? I am 68 years and do aquafit 3-4 times weekly without the tampon in place and am pleased my cele does not peek after doing same. I am in good health otherwise and curious to know is taking chromium piccolinate 200mcg 2-3 times a week may help me gain improved muscle strength ? Has anyone any experience with taking it? I have had a very busy summer and just been able this past week to get into the routine of doing the exercises in the "First Aid For Prolapse" this week, although I can not do them all gracefully because I have some difficulty with balance which I hope will improve. I love this site and follow it almost daily------Thanks to all of you.........I am so grateful to Christine!!!

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MsNightingale

August 17, 2012 - 10:55am

Hi and congratulations on your firebreathing. I am excitedly awaiting the yoga third wheel to better understand that breathing! I know little about the chromium piccolinate except that there is controversy regarding it's use and potential side effects. I wasn't able to quickly access where we might find that naturally.....what foods might contain that? I would be very curious to find out if you couldn't get what you need of that substance through diet instead of pills since so little is known about it's potential. Best wishes to you! Oh---I am not very graceful either but I do know that our balance will definitely improve, along with so much else, from doing these DVDs!

Heavenlyflower

August 17, 2012 - 11:46am

Hi energeticmarg I have one question and that is how do you use a tampon?

Aloha, and Mahalo
Heavenly flower

Surviving60

August 17, 2012 - 4:49pm

What else do you do besides firebreathing? It's great that you are starting to do the workouts, but remember that this is not a mere exercise program but a full-time postural correction. The exercises help that along, same with long purposeful walks in WW posture. The main thing is to be in the correct posture all of your waking hours if you can - not just if/when you remember to. It takes time to form this habit. Months and even years into this work, you will continue to see improvement if you are doing what you should. And I don't just mean prolapse improvement, I'm also talking about hip and spine health and stability. - Surviving

frog123

August 17, 2012 - 6:01pm

I am doing the fire breathing exercises but I wonder if someone can tell me if I am doing it correctly? When I breathe in and let my belly drop the cystocele disappears but when I breath out through pursed lips it seems to come out again. If I bring my belly button more straight up it does not seem to protrude but then I feel I am not moving anything forward. Any suggestions? I am only into this two weeks so maybe I am expecting too much too soon? If I squeeze like I am doing Kegel exercises it stops it from coming out. Any advice would be appreciated.

Surviving60

August 17, 2012 - 6:14pm

Froggie, are you rounding your back and pulling navel to spine as you are breathing out through pursed lips? If you are doing that part, you should feel the organs getting sucked even further forward into the belly and out of the vaginal space. - Surviving

energeticmarg

August 17, 2012 - 6:33pm

Hi MSNightngale & Surviving 60; I am trying to do the WW posture consistantly altho I do catch myself slipping at times however I am becoming more aware when I do slip. I know I have to be in WW posture all of the time and know by my lower back discomfort by the end of the day then I AM GETTING THERE.......OH MY GOD I was not aware that my posture had been so bad!!!!!!!! As for the tampon I use a playtex sport one regular absorbancy and open the plastic cover as much as I can by squeezing and pouring some KY silk-E in then lubricate my vagina with same before inserting the tampon in. I do this after I have done the firebreathing and my cele has moved back y=up. The tampon usually keeps my cele in place unless I am over tired and having a bad day. A bad day means my cele comes back down some. When this happens I remove the tampon lie down for a while to rest, do firebreathing again and if I need to be upright and active I insert another tampon. I am aware I could get a pessary however because of what I have read in the threads here I would rather avoid that. I am hoping the WW Posture and exercises will help me avoid needing a pessary. At this point my lumbar spine is still somewhat stiff but there has been some improvement...........thanks for your inquiries.........................Marg

energeticmarg

August 17, 2012 - 6:49pm

Hi Heavenly flower------read my recent post . I describe how I use a tampon there. Also I now have a wedge cushion on my car seat and have found a small blanket rolled which I place in my lumbar region supports me better while driving....................Marg

TVbug

August 17, 2012 - 8:00pm

energeticmarg,
How do I find your recent post on how you use a tampon?

louiseds

August 17, 2012 - 11:31pm

Hi TVbug

Just click on EnergeticMarg's username. This takes you to her profile. Click on the Track tab and all the topics she has posted will come up. Click on each and scroll to find her posts. You can also use the Search box. Just put in "tampon". You will find pages of Topics with tampon in their comments.

frog123

August 18, 2012 - 7:51am

I bend over and place one hand on my bent knee and one just inside vaginal opening. I breathe in and drop my belly and pull my tail bone up. I breathe out through pursed lips bringing in my belly drawing navel to spine and my tail bone tucks in. Maybe I am not to tuck in the tail bone? I don't think I feel any sucking forward. Certainly when I have my tail bone up and out everything is forward. Thanks Surviving

Surviving60

August 18, 2012 - 8:55am

Froggie, it sounds like you have the breathing right, but why don't you just try it with both hands on knees, or maybe down on all fours? Not sure of the purpose of the hand in the vagina. Surviving

frog123

August 18, 2012 - 10:25am

I guess to feel what is happening with my bladder and where it might be situated. I see you have a sense of humour Surviving. Took me awhile!! Take care and thank you.

Surviving60

August 18, 2012 - 10:48am

I'd recommend not trying to "check" your prolapse at the same time as you firebreathe. I'm not much of a checker myself, but I would think that might interfere with good f.b. technique. When we talk about "feeling" the organs being sucked further forward on the exhale, that isn't necessarily the kind of feeling that we're talking about.

You might try doing a little bit of jiggling, as Louise has recommended many times on this site, to kind of get your organs forward into the belly before you start firebreathing. Then the f.b. reinforces that position, and excellent WW posture throughout your day helps train the organs to stay there. It's all part of the work. - Surviving

louiseds

August 18, 2012 - 6:46pm

Hi Frog

Yes, Surviving is right. You do need both hands resting on your knees. Otherwise you have to engage your abdominal and back muscles, glutes and quads, which interferes with relaxing your torso and inhaling and exhaling freely with maximum belly movement. It is the movement of the belly that allows movement of the pelvic organs.

Now, you are a woman who understands humour. If you want to see what is happening in your vagina I suggest that you do a party trick. Find something light in weight that is about 1/4inch in diameter, with a rounded end, like one of those very stylish but totally useless promotional pens with the heavy contents removed. Push the round end into your vagina a little way until it stays there with something sticking out in full view. I used a chopstick with a round end. If you were ovulating you would have no chance of getting anything to stay put, but there is plenty of time in the second half of the cycle when the vagina is drier. Only menopause gives us the privilege of having a dry sticky vagina all the time. ;-(

Now firebreathe and watch the angle of the whatsameejigger change as your vagina changes its angle and position. Endless enjoyment can be had from this activity! If you can't see it, try attaching a little bell to tell you it is moving! Or a string that will rise and fall!

Now, if all of us all did it at the same time, we could bomb Facebook with the pictures!

But seriously, figure out a way to see what is happening. POP is the mother of invention.

Louise

:-)

Arizona

November 6, 2013 - 8:59pm

Oh, Surviving, I am LMAO right now. Have had company for two weeks, slacked on my WW work and am paying for it now. Am still trying to get Firebreathing down so was searching the site. Came across the above posts. Loved the part where you said: "When we are talking about 'feeling the organs'...", PRICELESS! And then along comes Louise and her chopsticks again...swear I have run across three different posts with Louise and those chopsticks :-) Frog123, I think we are related!