Uterin Prolapse and ointments

I have been using Ky's Silk-E every night at bedtime. I just rub it into my vagina to get rid of the dryess. This helps. It seems to be mostly vitamin E and Aloe. Good luck to you. Shift your position and wear larger panties so you don't irritate your prolapse.

Yes, I have developed that specific dryness just over the past weeks concurrent with a dose of the flu bringing with it an overactive bladder and coincidentally with the (southern hemisphere) winter’s drying of the hands (probably no connection).

Yes, you are right, it happens for me too when dear old uterus hangs out continuously: that’s when the dryness happens, around her opening I think. When I can get her reasonably tucked inside, the dryness seems to abate somewhat. The first time I used a dab of honey for a couple of days which did help, but also the flu was on the mend. Now, I am having a second bout due to another problem, self imposed this time, duh!

I’m going to do the honey trick right now and get back to you.

I have used vaseline occasionally inside the vulva to good effect, but haven't tried it on the uterus specifically. I am not aware of the objections to vaseline, it's such an age old remedy now at least four generations. I know there was worry in the medical fraternity about its being inhaled by elderly people into the lungs but I don't know any of the details.

Dear Daphne

How long has that been? One-Two hours? Went to urinate just a minute ago (yes, TMI). I had to push my uterus back in, and found the dryness gone. I used raw honey this time and just rubbed/spread the honey on gently to the dry spot and around where it was hanging out of the vulva. The raw honey is thicker than the usual supermarket honey I used last time. The supermarket honey was runny. They both worked. I’m thinking the particular bacteria needed is not destroyed in the pasteurizing process.

Still, more tests please ladies.

Best wishes, Fab

KY Jelly is a popular lubricant, at a drugstore it would be next to the condoms, etc. You can find KY's Silk-E formula on line at Drugstore.com. I live in the Pacific Northwest. It comes in a small plastic container and I keep it by my bedside whereever I go, especially when I go to Canada. I like the CHilcotin wilderness. Good Luck.

Would you be willing to do an experiment? I'm curious if over time you could regain bladder control when using the pessary......

You said: "I have had lots of Pessaries inserted by other Drs.but they all made me incontinent continually so had to have them taken out, but I am hopeful that this Dr. may be the one that can find one that works for me."

This is very typical. It isn't the pessary that is causing the incontinence, in fact, it's your prolapse that is stopping you from leaking. The urethra has a bit of a kink in it- when you put the pessary in, it straightens out this kink and causes the leaking (as best I can understand it).
I was wondering if you would give the pessary a try, even though it makes you leak urine, and see if over time that leaking would resolve with wholewoman techniques.....

Thank you so much Daphne for this full description. It rings so many chords. There is some comfort in shared misery, ha. That must have been the ultimate in embarrassing and frustrating experiences. After four tries, I imagine you would be feeling pretty disgusted. It worried me that you couldn’t ever get your uterus back inside. I wonder if this has anything to do with the operation similar to Christine’s that you had. And yes, the drying effect this would have on the uterus and your concern for splitting of the skin is a real and close fear of my own.

I would try the supermarket honey. It worked the first time for me, although my dryness is not as extensive as yours, and I was able to moisten and return the uterus inside. I’m positive a couple of cups a day of the red clover tea also helped.

I do hope you can get some relief soon, even if from a regular smear of olive oil and once she is lubricated she will more easily return to where she is meant to be, even if just inside the vulva, she will remain more moist and protected. Of course, you know all this and it is finding what will work that is your mission. A year seems a long time to wait for the doc's appointment, this is so often the case having to wait for the best. In the meanwhile good luck.

Best wishes, Fab

Could be just as much a dumb kid’s reading to blame for not getting the point than any lack of explaining on your behalf, Daphne. Christine talks about red clover in her article LS report. She says it has been used in the past and currently to treat the symptoms of skin, lung and reproductive disorders and menopause among other things (It’s well worth the read, although being non-scientific I am only slowly getting a grasp on the why and how). At this stage of my learning, if I gave you what I thought was how it worked, I might be just a bit wrong. You know how thorough and many angled Christine's research is. Primarily, she says the health of the vagina, vulva and cervical area are largely dependent upon the microorganisms that colonize these surfaces. So she looks at those things which will ensure that these areas are colonized with beneficial micro organisms and foods that provide these. Christine’s technical research points to it being particularly good for the vulva and I would think by extension the uterus.

I know that while drinking the red clover tea, it makes me more comfortable in the whole vagina area while the honey targets the dry spot. You can probably get red clover in tablet form, (although I am not sure of that). The tea I buy is Bloom’s and it is available from a health food shop, but I am in the southern hemisphere.

Yes, I do have Christine’s book and it is a wonderful help to me to understand and think about the prolapse in a positive, constructive way.

Ah, Christine’s exercises. My main concern at this point of time is keeping the old girl inside. Therefore, I concentrate on posture, walking and stationary bike riding and the two yoga poses; cat and cow. When I try Christine’s exercises, the ones in her book and the First Aid DVD, I make sure that the uterus is well up and then I give it a brief routine. Once the uterus drops I don’t think I am getting the full benefit of the exercise and so stop.

I'm glad you have found the vaseline and honey helping a bit. Yes it does dry up and gets absorbs. I think Christine suggested twice a day for the honey. I must look around for these softer pads you mention. I have been using panty liners.

Best wishes, Fab