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Surviving60
October 15, 2012 - 5:09pm
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Marigold, if you have all
Marigold, if you have all your organs and have not had any repairs, and you stay in WW posture at all times, protecting your lumbar curvature every waking moment, use firebreathing and nauli to help pull things forward, no straining on the toilet, lots of good walking in posture....all of these things religiously, and you are still not getting results that you can live with....
....you should still avoid surgery for all the reasons you've been hearing about. The materials you mention break down over time (which I think was why mesh came into existence in the first place).
No one can make this decision for you. And not everyone can put in the constant effort that it takes to learn this and make it work. But good heavens, don't expect encouragement for surgery from this bunch! - Surviving
louiseds
October 16, 2012 - 2:53am
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Management of POP
Hi Marigold
These materials you mention are still used in the same way as mesh, reinforcing ligaments that are only thickened bands of fascia that carry the nerves and blood vessels for the uterus, fallopian tubes and ovaries, or else they go underneath the bladder or urethra. Mess with them by adding other tissue and you mess with nerve and blood supplies to these organs by introducing unnecessary scar tissue.
These 'ligaments' are stabilising tissue, not supporting tissue. They don't hold anything up. These surgeries, whatever material they are using, are addressing only repair of the bits that have worn out, by tightening them and reinforcing the malpositioning of the organs. They are not putting the organs back where they belong. If you want to manage prolapse you have to get the organs back to where they belong, where the stretched and damaged tissues are not under so much load. No surgery does that, because they don't seem to understand the malpositioning of the organs, and how they move around.
Sammy
October 16, 2012 - 6:14pm
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i did take a fresh look at
i did take a fresh look at surgery and after having mesh inserted and removed, am left with discharge which is bloody sometimes and pus like other times about a tsp daily from way up by my spine where they could not remove the eroding mesh. The well respected specialist that deals with the mess made of my healthy organs says they do not know if they can now stop the discharge any way. My prolapse is back(appears to be my bladder falling against vaginal walls where I used to have my uterus there with NO discharge. Tell your daughter the nurse- It has not been the most trajic thing I have heard of but surgery did not help me and keeping our organs over the bones and not over the hole seems a pretty uncomplicated goal( The failed mesh creates a compllicated challenge ) I understand the pressure and the difficulty standing- i worked in a factory with this.. especially in the late aft it is difficult... I use a pessary now which does keep my bladder from falling down and I can stand/walk with normal comfort most of the time ... just saying...