When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
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Surviving60
October 16, 2012 - 4:00pm
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Hi tumminieri and welcome. I
Hi tumminieri and welcome. I would venture to say that you lucked out by going to a urogyn in search of a surgical solution, and surprisingly got shown the door. Take it as a sign that surgery is not for you, not now or ever! I’m sure he has indeed seen much worse, but that doesn’t stop lots of them from pushing surgery anyway. Hopefully you have put yourself on a different track. Since the professionals do not think you even have a prolapse, or at least not one worth worrying about yet, then the thing for you to do is to keep things from getting any worse by immersing yourself in Whole Woman knowledge. Learn the posture, practice it all the time until it becomes second nature. You’ll feel better, you’ll look better, you can get on with your life without fear, and pretty much do whatever you want. What do you think? - Surviving
wholewomanUK
October 16, 2012 - 5:09pm
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new to here and prolapse
Hi tumminieri,
Welcome to the WW community - and so glad you're finding this site helpful.
Reading your post it certainly sounds like you've experienced/ing some kind of prolapse issue.
I really empathised with your experience of seeing your first gynecologist. After my first gyne visit, the doctor was very dismissive; he diagnosed mild uterine prolapse and said, (I remember this clearly because it upset me so much), "women with prolapse do not need to take time off work". I couldn't believe it - I'd really struggled for a few weeks; scared, embarrassed, crying, v. uncomfortable prolapse symptoms cowith pains down my legs, not knowing waht to do - so stayed in bed feeling a bit of a wreck - and this expert pretty much tells me it's nothing and go back to work! Needless to say I was also in tears after my visit. Anyway, at least as Surviving says, we didn't have to deal with being encouraged to have surgery - so thank heavens for that!
I now appreciate the pelvic organs are quite motile. They need to be able to move around a bit to accommodate pregnancy for one thing. Likewise pelvic organ prolapses can improve and worsen throughout the day/from day to day for various reasons. So it's quite possible for women to have be diagnosed with different degrees of prolapse severity during different examinations. So a diagnosis is a snap shot of the situation at that time.
The diagnosis you received following your 2nd assessment also sounds a bit strange to me to be honest. I'm not sure how old you are. From your post I thought you might be post menopausal, so it seems a bit strange to be told you the problem may be some hyman skin there. Really?! That just seems unlikely from an "is that possible"? point of view...
Fortunately, there is help at hand. There is a treasure trove of information, adivce and support within this website alone. The WW 'saving the WW' book is a wonderful reference and resource for all things prolapse and offers a holistic approach and guidelines for recovery The WW dvd's give you specific exercise and yoga practices to do at home. There are currently also a select few teachers and the WW guru Christine of course, available for further tel/face to face support. The practical work is key to recovery and these resources are great supports in sustaining the commitment to do the WW posture and exercise. I highly recommend these resources. They help to empower women with knoweldge, confidence and the tools for recovery.
The WW approach is very effective with pops, and I am confident it will help you to recover on all levels.
Wishing you all the best, xLindy
Sammy
October 16, 2012 - 6:26pm
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I had a doctor write on an
I had a doctor write on an insurance form that i had had a strange looking piece of flesh (my cervix and inverted vagina with I guess a section of bladder pushing against it) coming from the vaginal opening-- who knew doctors can be ignorant
Surviving60
October 17, 2012 - 9:25am
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Yeah Sammy, I guess your guy
Yeah Sammy, I guess your guy was late for class one day, and missed the whole story of female anatomy.........
louiseds
October 18, 2012 - 12:23am
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Yeah Sammy, I guess your guy
... was actually document what he found, but was not willing to put money on what it actually was, thereby avoiding someone telling him he was wrong.
I figure that it is no surprise when a doctor does not know the answer to a question, or gives a general answer that s/he hopes they can get away with, or gives an answer that is simply wrong. I have long lost the illusion that doctors know all the answers to my questions, or that they are always correct, or that they are superhuman. They are often very well trained in certain areas, but cannot be expected to know it all when their own industry bombards them with new medical information every day.
Certain doctors are just members of my personal Professional Health Team. Some of them are great for some things, and due every bit of praise meted out to them, but they are certainly not my first point of call for prolapse-related matters.
I actually feel a bit sorry for them because society has put them on a pedestal and granted them powers that others do not have. That is an enormous load to bear, when they are just human beings doing a very difficult job in systems that are often not particularly kind to anyone. They too have to find their way through the maze of medical information and work out which to take notice of, and which to ignore.
Louise