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chickaboom
November 16, 2012 - 2:26pm
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Hi Artemis- and welcome! Some
Hi Artemis- and welcome! Some quick answers until our more knowledgeable members come along. Lots of women complain about achiness and discomfort in the initial stage... I remember experiencing that as well. Just take it easy and listen to your body, doing as much as you are able without causing yourself too much discomfort. Pretty soon it will become your new normal and you'll find that not being in posture is what is uncomfortable!
Reclining on your back or side is fine, just try avoiding positions where you are semi sitting and your spine is c shaped.
By the sounds of it, it doesn't seem like your prolapse is bad enough to warrant a pessary - which, even if it did, may or may not benefit from a pessary. I dont have experience with a pessary but I do know it leaves your vagina an open space, rather than being a closed flattened *potential* space when in strong posture. Success in WW work doesn't come from strong muscles-- what correct posture will do is slowly reposition your pelvic organs so that they are being held towards the front of your Lower abdomen, over a sturdy pubic bone, and not slouching backwards into your vagina.
Hth and good luck
fab
November 16, 2012 - 4:12pm
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Slow and steady
Hi Artemis
We usually take the experience of pain as a message to stop and so when upon adopting the WWposture we experience pain it is hard to ignore. It’s probably best to do a bunch of posture when you are at your freshest and most energetic. As you tire through the day then is the time to think about moving around a bit more, if possible. Standing up for a bit, having a little pace up and down. Not all workplaces allow for that type of mobility. So it’s a matter of what you can do. I found moving my legs around a bit while sitting also helped to just change the pressure of body weight from one part of my buttocks to another. Also surviving mentioned on another thread putting a few cushions on your seat. This raises your height so that your legs are more comfortable and are able to take more of your body weight. It also helps to stabilize the correct position of your rib cage over your hips. Your derriere also, now probably being rigidly held in one spot so that the lumbar is not disturbed, is copping the brunt, so the softness of the cushion and the re-balancing of weight onto your legs helps make holding the posture more comfortable. I also widen my legs, again this spreads the weight and saves the back. I remember experiencing this ache in the small of the back and across the shoulders. The prolapsed uterus also gave me a pain just below my left rib cage.
Before commencing your daily exercises and “New Kegels”, see if you can bend forward from the hips and reposition your uterus as far up the vaginal canal as possible, you are more or less heading her for home, and the exercises should prove even more beneficial, as well as comfortable. I suggest this also for when sleeping. I find any position is fine and again I make sure my uterus is as far up as I can get her.
Is it possible to let things go a little at home for a few weeks just to give yourself the chance of getting on top of posture and allocating some time for resting? I know it possibly is not the right time of year to be thinking that way, but do make an effort to take time to think WWposture and just a little more rest than normal to begin with. This posture thing does need effort. Look on it as a bit of a marathon for a few weeks. Time has to be devoted, but you can’t make yourself too sore to do it.
Surviving60
November 16, 2012 - 5:53pm
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Sleeping position
If you are feeling discomfort from posture work, then you might get some help from sleeping on your side with a pillow between your knees. This is a good, soothing position for the hips and spine when you are lying down.
When I started this 2-1/2 years ago, I had only the book for a very long time. When I first started getting the DVD's, I discovered a whole arsenal of moves and body positions that I could use throughout my day to reinforce posture. Even when things get crazy and I'm not carving time out of my day to do a workout, scattering firebreathing and certain moves throughout my day keeps me in good form. Take it slow and don't expect miracles overnight. This is something you'll be doing forever! - Surviving
Aussie Soul Sister
November 17, 2012 - 4:45pm
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Artemis/ posture
Dear Artemis,
When I started sitting in WWP 6mths ago, I experienced discomfort and aching & fatigue. I had been slouching significantly for many yrs... It takes time to strengthen muscles that haven't been used for yrs. Follow the advice from the lovely ladies above and in time you will notice strength in your back & I noticed my legs also were stronger & no discomfort.
A bonus is that I don't get back pain when standing for long periods of time in WWP, & I have less fatigue in general - better breathing position...both sitting & standing.
I use a folded cushion behind my back when sitting on the lounge -I plan to acquire bolster style cushions for the car and lounge for when I need support. I am sitting on a stool at the computer.
Hope this helps
Best wishes
Aussie Soul Sis
Artemis
November 18, 2012 - 12:48pm
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Another question, and thank you!
Thanks so much women for your encouragement and information.
So I have another question. I am an avid hiker.
After reading a few success stories, I haven't yet seen anyone who has returned to their previous level of physical activity in terms of high-impact movement.
Am I about to say goodbye to running down the side of mountains now? Do any of you run, hike, dance hard etc? Or am I destined for a life of low-impact activity now?
Thanks so much -
Artemis
Surviving60
November 18, 2012 - 2:03pm
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High impact
Artemis, lots of walking in good, mindful WW posture is one of the things that will help your body settle into this posture faster and more completely. The more correct walking you do, the better. Last summer I hiked for 3 hours, and my prolapses never felt better. I feel as though I could have gone on for 3 more hours, and would have felt better still (at least prolapse-wise!). So I would say, hiking is extremely prolapse-friendly, once you have made this posture your own. As for running, Christine actually demonstrates this in her most recently DVD. You can run IF you run in posture. Whether or not you will be entering any marathons is not for us to know right now. Dancing is great with prolapse provided you don't have someone telling you to tuck your butt and pull in your stomach! Once you have made this posture correction, you will have the ability to discern between prolapse friendly and unfriendly activity. What this really does is free you to go back to being active, without fear of making your prolapse worse. I personally avoid the real high-impact stuff, for the sake of my joints as well as my 'celes. I just don't see any reason for it. - Surviving
Artemis
November 18, 2012 - 6:01pm
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Thanks so much Surviving60.
Thanks so much Surviving60. Very comforting, and makes a lot of sense.
Amy