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Dear Helpless,
Welcome! You have joined the ranks of over half of the female population ,spanning ages 16 to over 80 who experience prolapse. Over time, all women will have some prolapse issues.
I would suggest you take a deep breath, all the way down to your lower ribs, and realize that this condition is not life-threatening. Unless you have had some serious surgeries like hysterectomy, your organs are not going to fall out.
You mention many therapies and approaches to the problem.
Could I suggest that you order Christine's book and get a complete understanding of what you are dealing with. You can also explore the homepage of this site and get some very valuable information.
Once you have really studied the WW work you will understand why those of us who believe in this approach are not using most of the approaches you mention.
WW will empower you to make educated decisions about your condition. It will help you talk with the doctors. It will give you the ability to stabilize or possibly even reverse your condition.
I was diagnosed about 3 years ago and have been doing the WW work for more than 2 years. My condition has improved and continues to improve. I do WW work everyday and incorporating WW posture is a life-long job. However, it makes so much sense to me that I trained with Christine and became a practitioner.
Please take the time to look into WW more closely. There are no quick fixes for prolapse. However, you can learn how to manage your prolapse, possibly improve your condition and live a healthy and satisfying life.
I encourage you to get the book, baton and First Aid for Prolapse DVD and learn how you can improve your condition as well.
Good luck and stay in touch,
Whole Woman PA

Hi Helpless – Good advice to you from WWPA. You seem to be in complete panic mode right now, and that’s understandable. We have all been there. Your organs aren’t going anywhere, so please relax and take a breath.
It’s natural to go out there and skim the internet for solutions, and then assume that if you throw all these “solutions” at the problem, you will be ahead of the game. That is certainly not the case. It does seem like your reading of Christine’s work hasn’t scratched the surface much, in your zeal to find every possible strategy out there. So, spend a little time, and try to get beyond the “I’ll try anything” approach.

First I’m going to caution you about taking a kegel-based approach, which you have already chosen to pursue. Like scads of women, I did them religiously for decades and they neither prevented nor solved my prolapse. This model is based on the faulty anatomy that has the pelvic organs perched over a hole, and needing stronger muscles from underneath to keep them from falling out!! Christine has demonstrated that pelvic organ support comes from the proper spinal shape (restoring of natural female lower lumbar curvature) and the round ligaments of the uterus pulling all the organs forward into the relaxed lower belly. Kegels actually aggravate prolapse by pulling the organs towards the vagina. Please read her blog article, “Just Do Yer Kegels”:

http://wholewoman.com/blog/?p=1497

I don’t have much to say about the slippery slope of surgery. The failure/repeat rates for these procedures are extremely high, and the results of even the better surgeries do not justify the risks. And those laser therapies are really just the surgeon using a laser in place of a scalpel to create scar tissue. Nasty……I think one would have to be pretty nuts to lie down for that one!

I would go to the Resources tab, and go to Videos and then watch the first video on the page, which is an overview of why surgeries should be avoided, how WW posture works (how we lost that natural supportive posture in the first place, and how we can get it back. And no, you don’t need a doctor to correct your posture, unless you have some serious issues you haven’t told us about).

I have been doing this work for 2-1/2 years. It is not a quick fix but a permanent posture adjustment that will do lots more than stabilize your prolapse. This is also about hip and spine health as we age. I wish I had acquired this knowledge during my childbearing years. You have lots of potential improvement if you give yourself this chance. There are lots of tools in Christine’s toolbag to help you make this work. It is a commitment and it will let you get on with life, without fear and without limitations. - Surviving

Do you mean Perth Western Australia?

Oh my goodness, Helpless, are you fortunate enough to be located close to a WW practitioner? Please contact Louise via the Practitioners tab on this website, lucky woman.

Whole Woman was a no-brainer for me. I knew I didn’t want any kind of surgery, ever. It was also very self-evident to me that continuing to kegel was not helping (I didn’t know the anatomical explanation, I just knew it was worse than useless). I’m fortunate that I didn’t get myself all balled up in an internet search of all the ideas that are out there. I came here right away, and I have never looked back. The rewards have gone so far beyond prolapse management. - Surviving

Helpless, I know you feel like you’re the first woman ever to have prolapse. We can tell you that we’ve been there and we understand your panic, but not every woman is comforted by that knowledge. We can tell you that your prolapse is not getting worse as fast as it seems to be; all that checking and stressing is not what you should be doing. We have shared what we know works, and made lots of suggestions. You are very lucky to have a Whole Woman practitioner in your backyard, because the vast majority of us don’t. This will enable you to make a quick-start into the program, whereas most of us had to get our information over time and after waiting around for books or DVD’s to arrive. It’s OK for you to come here and vent your fears, but you have to be doing something more than that. We’ve given you what we can to start you off. We have been there, so we know that your panic and flailing around for answers is unnecessary. Focus! - Surviving

Do you understand the posture that you are now working to own? I am assuming your book from Christine has not yet arrived, but I am thinking from poking around this site, you might have a pretty good understanding of what you are aiming for in the posture. Just in case you don't...here goes....stand with feet facing forward (as if you are about to walk), soft knees (not locked knees), soft belly (never do you want to suck in your abs or belly), lift your chest upward, shoulders stay down (not back, but down), crown of the head is lifting upward. This posture will help to bring out your natural lumbar curve...yes, you want that. We do not want to tuck the tailbone, pull in the abs or anything like that. If you can become focused on this posture, and breath every breath gently into your tummy (not a shallow chest breath) then in time, your pelvic organs will find their place nestled into the front abdominal wall. Do not panic any more now, you have this wonderful direction, try to take it and every moment that you are up and about, this is your posture. When you get your DVDs in the mail, start slowly. You are on a journey now. It is one that will bring you a lot of understanding and healing. First steps can be baby steps. Those of us who are here are believers and that is because we have our lives back. Yes, we were like you, crying and terrified. Everyone's improvement moves in its own time. Get yourself started and before long you will be posting your little successes. In our world, every little success is very big. Best wishes to you dear helpless!

Oh, I see you are in Perth. I second the person who said you are lucky. Contact Louise and get started. Wish I was in Perth right now. Once again, love and best wishes!

Hi Helpless,
I can guarantee you many, if not most if, not all of us on the forum have been through the kind of thoughts and feelings you're goin through now. Our hearts go out to you and also with the benefit of hindsight, know that there are things you can do straight away to improve your symptoms and manage your prolapse.

If you're lucky enough to live near a WW teacher, then I also definately advise you to get in touch with her. I met Louise at the WW Conference last year. She's a very lovely, caring, knowledgable and wise woman. Louise can offer support, information and guidance towards a healthier, happier future.

Wishing you all the best.
xwholewomanuk

I know how you feel, I have been there. I discovered prolapse when I had 3 young children also. 3 under 6 if I do the math. I know I was upset, and it did worry me. Surgery for me I thought ( I did not know of whole woman then). My worry with my prolapse did not compare to the anxiety that set in with the failure of the operation ....I was so much worse off. The statistics are just awful...but of course the docs don't present them as failure, they just phrase it as those" requiring more surgery". I didn't ask enough questions before the operation .....wish I did.
But that is behind me, can't change the past.
Whole woman has been my saviour. I do not think I would be getting on with my life as much as I am had it not been for what I have learned here.....that and the wonderful support from all the women here.
With three young children it adds another dimension to trying to get through the day without feeling like everything is "falling out" it is hard. But you can do it, you just have to slow down a little, get little children to climb into their seats, important to not lift them unnecessarily.
You have not had surgery, that is great, so if you adopt this posture, and do the exercises ( I do the first aid DVD daily)you will improve, but this is not a quick fix....it will take time. But if I could turn back time I would avoid surgery and work at this.
A year ago I was in a bad way, but I am so much better now. I get through my day much better, not perfectly - I still feel the prolapse a bit by the end of the day, and I still get one week out of four that is not so good, but I look back and I can see the improvement. There is still more improvement to be had, I believe very much in the body's ability to heal and to change given the right conditions.
If you can get to see Louise I would do it. I may be wrong but I think she is a bit of a drive from Perth itself, but worth the effort if you can organise it.
I hope my comments help.
Lindy

Helpless - you need to delay any decisions about exercise equipment until you have learned about WW posture, and what you have to do to protect lumbar curvature. You need to relax, slow down and get your mind around these concepts. - Surviving

I cannot answer with great knowledge about the bike. Usually we say that as long as you can remain well in WW posture then the exercise should be okay. I think that with these bikes you are quite well upright and could easily maintain the soft belly, uplifted chest, crown of the head upward. The only difference is that the arms are in motion. As long as your shoulders are down I do not see a problem with it. Lets see what the other ladies have to say. Also, as you take ownership of the posture and it becomes you, then you will over time feel confident to think it through, try various activities that you like and see how they affect you. That will come in time, if, yes if, you have made the posture yours. How is that coming along? I am so happy that you have contacted Louise. Best wishes dear helpless!