Prolapse,Chinese medicine and inflammation

Hi 3canyoudoit2,
I have also noticed both in myself and in other women who've experienced pop that there is a definate link between increased stress levels and increased pop symptoms for many women. I think experience of prolapse also presents an opportunity to make positive improvements on our lives - and de-stress our lives as far as possible.
I don't know much about Chinese/a;ternative medicines, so can't comment re those.
xwholewomanuk

I don't know about these herbs either, but I don't have a lot of herbal knowledge myself. Even if you find them effective in soothing and shrinking hemorrhoids, I would be a bit skeptical of any claims to anti-falling or anti-dragging properties as a treatment for rectocele. I'm not even sure what that means. Glad they are giving some relief, though. - Surviving

Glad the herbs are working, I have not heard of them. I don't know if you have heard of splinting before, but I splint every day to be able to have a complete bowel movement. Just in case you have not heard of it, insert two fingers just inside the vagina and push down during defecation. It has saved my sanity thus far!

Hello,
I know that stress plays a HUGE role in my POP. Even the slightest stress results in discomfort and painful urination. Most likely the stress is affecting my posture, my muscle tone, my breathing, etc..

As far as Eastern medicine goes, I haven't tried Chinese herbs for POP but I've been considering acupuncture as treatment for my POP as well as my stress and anything else that my acupuncturist can determine needs improving ( a lot!) I've read that increasing the Qui can actually reverse prolapse in the early stages. I need to call her today and discuss this. I've only used acupuncture a few times - for Shingles and stress and the sessions were extremely effective. There is a lot of information about acupuncture and prolapse on the web if you do a search. If you do choose to go that route, make sure your acupuncturist is board certified and has worthy credentials. If you are afraid of needles, don't worry, you don't even know they are there. I've had them in the strangest places all over my body and the only needle that was most sensitive was the one on my thumb! Strange!

Hi Gillian and welcome. Since you're on the WW website discussing options for prolapse management, I sure hope you have checked out what we have to offer here. Correct your posture, and over time you are likely to find your symptoms changing for the better. If you are totally new to this, let me recommend watching the first item on the Video page (go to Resources tab, then to Video) to get an overview of what this is all about. It's all in the posture. Not a quick fix, not a cure. But if you have prolapse and want to get on with life, learn the posture and protect your spine and hips in the process. This is pretty major. Nothing against acupuncture as such, but you need to get the organs forward and out of the vaginal space, and posture is how that happens. Ask questions, look around. - Surviving

Thank you for the welcome Surviving. I've been reading this site for a month now. I'm sorry that so many women are dealing with this issue but so glad to find the support. Reading everyone's posts has provided a great deal of ease and wisdom. I'll introduce myself in another topic and tell my story but, today when I saw this post, I just felt the urge to write. I have plenty of questions.

I have improved my prolapse with the posture and I'm also taking Red Clover. Sometimes I have horribly painful urination but I'm getting relief from that with D-Mannose twice a day. I don't know why it works but it does!

I haven't had a chance to talk to my acupuncturist today but, I do know that it can do some pretty amazing things and I read that it can even lift the uterus. I'll let you know what I learn.

forward to what you have to report back. Acupuncture does claim to help mild prolapse and recent experimentation of the use of acupuncture in the relief of depression has proven that acupuncture is not just a faith medicine as the use of a laser needle in these particular tests meant neither the operator nor the patient knew whether the needle was turned on or not, so it was a true double blind. Results found that when the needle was indeed 'on' the patients' depression was aided significantly.

I have a healthy respect for the effectiveness of acupuncture in a number of areas.

cheers and thanks, Fab

Hi All

Lots of different therapies have been mentioned in this thread. I can personally see how most of them could improve POP, but none of them, except WW posture are key therapies as far as WW is concerned, and none of them will be a silver bullet. Most have been discussed previously.

The point that WW makes is that POP is a result of how we live our lives, and how we live our lives is the way to make prolapse symptoms decrease. It is about what we do with our bodies and to our bodies, and what we put into our bodies.

If a particular therapy is having a positive effect, then add it to what you have learned on the WW website. It might just be the icing on the cake for you. It is not about what others do to your body. However, remember that if you need regular and frequent acupuncture there is something else returning you to a POP state. You need to find out what that is, and address that. This is the path to self knowledge.

Also remember that herbs are potent. You need to take the advice of your practitioner as to the interval between doses and how long you can take them continuously. Don't just think because they are a natural plant they are harmless. They often are not.

Louise

This is such an interesting thread. I have to wonder if some of these alternatives could help in aiding whole woman practices. I would be afraid of unusual herbals myself, but acupuncture and I have read about the Mayan massage on here also, seem like harmless enough things to try.
I agree that there is no replacement for whole woman, because the physics of it makes the most sense to me. But, when I am having bad days, like those days around my periods when everything is dragging down there, I wish I had a magic pill for sure. But then again, when the period is done, and I can get some decent firebreathing in, I have automatic relief.
I am having a very good time of it right now, knock on wood, cervix is higher than it has been in a very long time. Really trying to be conscious of everything, but not militant about it, as I was in the beginning. Maybe just trying to relax more, like you ladies have said before, has helped.
Thanks again for always being here. You ladies are definetly the light in the tunnel!