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I had a UP several months ago, I have been practicing posture, exercises. Back pain went away as well as other symptoms- saw the OBGyn and she said there was no prolapse- but I had continued to think it had not changed b/c I could still feel the cervix...something I had never felt before the UP. Now I can still not use tampons b/c there is still barely enough space. The Obgyn did not seem concerned whatsoever.

I don't understand how this can be- I thought the vagina was able to flatten, but there is the bottom of my uterus just parked there. It was always out of reach before. So I'm always scared that it's just going to migrate. Most of the time I can feel just the nub of the cervix, but then today I feel more the bottom of the actual uterus. How can I tell if it's tipped? Is the uterus moving about or is what I'm experiencing a matter of hormones changing the shape of the cervix?

Thank-you for your help!

Christi

Dear Christi,

In normal anatomy the vagina does flatten. Once the vaginal space is being held open by a prolapse it becomes vulnerable to intraabdominal pressure opening it more and therefore allowing more prolapsing. Your uterus is indeed tipped and is sliding down a natural cleavage plane, or path of least resistance, within the pelvis. Neither I nor anyone else can tell you the end-point of that process.

It’s just this sort of situation I believe a certain type of pessary would be very useful for. One that is sturdy enough to provide resistance to the heavy uterus, yet able to flatten so as not to hold the area open unnaturally. No such pessary exists at this time.

All I can offer you is my perspective gained from over a decade of research into the problem. There are only so many things that are truly helpful:

• Natural female posture and full-body exercise.

• An energetic diet.

• A good pessary (I have no suggestions.) The sponge might be of some help.

• Supportive clothing.

• Shrinking the uterus. This I experimented with from the beginning. The original manuscript of STWW contained information about soaking and packing my protruding uterus with astringent substances in an effort to shrink it. One of the MD’S who gave me their endorsement would not do so unless I removed that information, which I did. Messing around with substances that could be irritating to these tissues is imperfect at best. The uterus does shrink post-menopausally, but I know that is of no consequence to you now.

• Cheerfulness, mindfulness, and a positive outlook have been well documented as the best energy medicine by all wisdom traditions for thousands of years. It is no accident that attitude and posture have the same meaning.

I will add there has been good research carried out concluding that homeopathic remedies are basically without medicinal value. Energy medicine DOES exist all around us, especially in substances – but the quality of these depends on so many factors, most of which cannot be mass-manufactured and packaged. Readers beware. And someone, please, tell me just what these “Chinese herbs” are? Isn’t the primary ingredient black cohosh? The work gets done when we’re on our feet…with a smile!

;-)Christine

Christine, does a tipped uterus indicate a future prolapse? Just curious because I have always had a tipped uterus. At my first gyno appt as a teenager the DR told me that "back in the old days" I could have been told no children because it was so tipped. Just wondering what if there's any correlation...

Kathy

From my perspective, a tipped uterus usually means an early stage of prolapse.

Does the medical establishment consider this normal? When I told the obgyn I had trouble with tampons she didn't seem to understand why. I told her that months ago I thought I had a UP & had all the symptoms. The CT scan showed my uterus in "normal" position. She didn't say it was tipped. So if I feel the cervix that means it's tipped?

About shrinking- maybe raspberry leaf tea would help a little.

Thanks for the advice- I'll check out the sponge.

Christi

I just remembered the obgyn said "your uterus is not flipped over"- I'm wondering if she meant that it wasn't tipped...

I think if you polled a hundred gyns you'd get several different definitions and etiologies of a "tipped" uterus. You're right, it could mean retroflexed, elongated, or prolapsed. I hope the practice fazes out such an utterly meaningless colloquialism.

Just wondering what the benefits of raspberry leaf tea are? I have heard it mentioned a few times before.
Thanks.

I think she was referring to its astringent qualities and the fact that it's soothing to the uterus in general. I've never mentioned the vaginal packing before, because it was a complete folly. So please, no one start experimenting. The postural/breath work is truly the answer.

christine

just in reply to your question about chinese herbs - there are a huge variety used with black cohosh being only one kind.

Usually a chinese herbalist works with about 12 herbs together in a complicated personalised formulae suited to which over disharmony is affecting the client (like those discussed in "healing with whole foods" - like Heat patterns, cold patterns, damp patterns and taking into acount the particular excesses and deficiencies of the persons organs (energetically).

It is really important to see a person with very good training becuase these herbs are very strong.

I didn't reverse my prolapse with chinese herbs when i took them for four months last year, but i had been told at that time i had a uterine prolpase not as i subsequently found out the urethral one.

I did feel less dizzy, tired, stressed and had other benifits thought and now that i have a proper diagnosis i'm going to start up again next week ( along with your excercises and the posture!)

2. i find a telly remote control works in stand in for a baton for your video work. One bonus is i can press pause easily when i've gotta do a repeat, when the video isn't in real time.

3. I got a digital camera and took some (no playboy suitable) close up's and think this was really helpfull for me to see what's going on. It's just a thought but it's better than mirrors and the internet is lousy for pictures.

I could see why they call my kind of prolapse (urethra) "the adders head", but it's empowering to be able to just eventually name it ( a few months ago) and recognise and be familiar with the whole shebang.

Again me and my inability to do a short post! bah

Christi:

i was told by my gyne that "the uterus is allways very mobile", could this be an influence? I hope things have improved for you and that you find the answers you need here to help you if there have been difficult changes.

best wishes all

Ann helen