When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
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Christine
March 14, 2006 - 9:54am
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Energy Medicine
Dear Christi,
In normal anatomy the vagina does flatten. Once the vaginal space is being held open by a prolapse it becomes vulnerable to intraabdominal pressure opening it more and therefore allowing more prolapsing. Your uterus is indeed tipped and is sliding down a natural cleavage plane, or path of least resistance, within the pelvis. Neither I nor anyone else can tell you the end-point of that process.
It’s just this sort of situation I believe a certain type of pessary would be very useful for. One that is sturdy enough to provide resistance to the heavy uterus, yet able to flatten so as not to hold the area open unnaturally. No such pessary exists at this time.
All I can offer you is my perspective gained from over a decade of research into the problem. There are only so many things that are truly helpful:
• Natural female posture and full-body exercise.
• An energetic diet.
• A good pessary (I have no suggestions.) The sponge might be of some help.
• Supportive clothing.
• Shrinking the uterus. This I experimented with from the beginning. The original manuscript of STWW contained information about soaking and packing my protruding uterus with astringent substances in an effort to shrink it. One of the MD’S who gave me their endorsement would not do so unless I removed that information, which I did. Messing around with substances that could be irritating to these tissues is imperfect at best. The uterus does shrink post-menopausally, but I know that is of no consequence to you now.
• Cheerfulness, mindfulness, and a positive outlook have been well documented as the best energy medicine by all wisdom traditions for thousands of years. It is no accident that attitude and posture have the same meaning.
I will add there has been good research carried out concluding that homeopathic remedies are basically without medicinal value. Energy medicine DOES exist all around us, especially in substances – but the quality of these depends on so many factors, most of which cannot be mass-manufactured and packaged. Readers beware. And someone, please, tell me just what these “Chinese herbs” are? Isn’t the primary ingredient black cohosh? The work gets done when we’re on our feet…with a smile!
;-)Christine
KathyG
March 14, 2006 - 10:28am
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Christine, does a tipped
Christine, does a tipped uterus indicate a future prolapse? Just curious because I have always had a tipped uterus. At my first gyno appt as a teenager the DR told me that "back in the old days" I could have been told no children because it was so tipped. Just wondering what if there's any correlation...
Kathy
Christine
March 14, 2006 - 1:40pm
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From my perspective
From my perspective, a tipped uterus usually means an early stage of prolapse.
Christi_p
March 14, 2006 - 8:54pm
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tipped considered normal?
Does the medical establishment consider this normal? When I told the obgyn I had trouble with tampons she didn't seem to understand why. I told her that months ago I thought I had a UP & had all the symptoms. The CT scan showed my uterus in "normal" position. She didn't say it was tipped. So if I feel the cervix that means it's tipped?
About shrinking- maybe raspberry leaf tea would help a little.
Thanks for the advice- I'll check out the sponge.
Christi
Christi_p
March 14, 2006 - 9:11pm
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I should add...
I just remembered the obgyn said "your uterus is not flipped over"- I'm wondering if she meant that it wasn't tipped...
Christine
March 15, 2006 - 8:07am
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tipped uterus
I think if you polled a hundred gyns you'd get several different definitions and etiologies of a "tipped" uterus. You're right, it could mean retroflexed, elongated, or prolapsed. I hope the practice fazes out such an utterly meaningless colloquialism.
UKmummy
March 15, 2006 - 8:29am
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Just wondering what the
Just wondering what the benefits of raspberry leaf tea are? I have heard it mentioned a few times before.
Thanks.
Christine
March 15, 2006 - 9:02am
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I think she was referring to
I think she was referring to its astringent qualities and the fact that it's soothing to the uterus in general. I've never mentioned the vaginal packing before, because it was a complete folly. So please, no one start experimenting. The postural/breath work is truly the answer.
ann.helen
March 25, 2006 - 9:53pm
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chinese herbs and uterus changes
christine
just in reply to your question about chinese herbs - there are a huge variety used with black cohosh being only one kind.
Usually a chinese herbalist works with about 12 herbs together in a complicated personalised formulae suited to which over disharmony is affecting the client (like those discussed in "healing with whole foods" - like Heat patterns, cold patterns, damp patterns and taking into acount the particular excesses and deficiencies of the persons organs (energetically).
It is really important to see a person with very good training becuase these herbs are very strong.
I didn't reverse my prolapse with chinese herbs when i took them for four months last year, but i had been told at that time i had a uterine prolpase not as i subsequently found out the urethral one.
I did feel less dizzy, tired, stressed and had other benifits thought and now that i have a proper diagnosis i'm going to start up again next week ( along with your excercises and the posture!)
2. i find a telly remote control works in stand in for a baton for your video work. One bonus is i can press pause easily when i've gotta do a repeat, when the video isn't in real time.
3. I got a digital camera and took some (no playboy suitable) close up's and think this was really helpfull for me to see what's going on. It's just a thought but it's better than mirrors and the internet is lousy for pictures.
I could see why they call my kind of prolapse (urethra) "the adders head", but it's empowering to be able to just eventually name it ( a few months ago) and recognise and be familiar with the whole shebang.
Again me and my inability to do a short post! bah
Christi:
i was told by my gyne that "the uterus is allways very mobile", could this be an influence? I hope things have improved for you and that you find the answers you need here to help you if there have been difficult changes.
best wishes all
Ann helen