When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
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Surviving60
June 28, 2013 - 6:58pm
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Chi machine
I don't know. It doesn't look like it should be bad for prolapse, but I'm wondering why you ask. Do you feel your prolapse more when you are doing it? That might mean something. Does the machine do all the work for you, or is there exertion on your part? I am totally unfamiliar with this.
What do you do about your prolapse now? Have you read up on posture? - Surviving
clearhealth
June 28, 2013 - 7:04pm
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chi machine
I haven't used the machine since I realized I have prolapse. I am doing the exercises in the "Saving the Whole Woman" book and am doing the fire breathing. I am working on my posture. I guess I will try the chi machine and see how I feel - I just don't want it to get worse.
rose54
June 30, 2013 - 9:21am
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chi machine
I also have a chi machine, and I use it once in a while when my lymph system feels particularly sluggish, I think it is good for gently moving the body and can have a relaxing effect. I really do not feel it would contribute to prolapse but that is only my opinion. You should listen to your body. I do not use it everyday, and not always for the same amount of time. I also use a rebounder, which I don't know if bouncing hard could contribute to prolapse so I just gently rebound, only for a few minutes, feels great for my lymph system and helps wake me up in the morning helping the stiffness move out of my body.
Free2be
September 3, 2013 - 6:09pm
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Rebounder
Christine has an older post on the rebounder you might want to research. 2010 I think. She now approves use of the rebounder under specific protocol. I wish there were some rules to follow as I have one and would like to use it but don't want do anything that interferes with the success of the WW program. Does anyone out there have any input on this?
Surviving60
September 4, 2013 - 4:07am
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rebounder
I haven't used a rebounder nor seen how it is that a rebounder is intended to be used. But if I was still early in this work and had not yet trained my body to do everything in posture, I do not think that I would choose jumping up and down as a good exercise for prolapse. I haven't seen Christine's post that you are referring to here. But the "rule" is really posture, can you maintain it or not when doing a particular thing. Another "rule" is, how does it make you feel? Study the concepts, learn and ingrain the posture, using all the tools that Christine offers. Then, go about your life, applying what you have learned and what you can feel to everything that you do. - Surviving
rose54
September 4, 2013 - 10:04am
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rebounder
I have a rebounder and what I like to do is lay flat on my back and do my leg stretches in the morning. And during the day if my back is hurting I again use it by laying flat and rocking back and forth. it really helps relax my back.
I do bounce on it in the mornings but only briefly, and I feel if I had a serious prolapse I would not bounce on it, it is similiar to jogging.
WW posture I would say has helped me the most, and that would be my top recommendation. I agree with Suriviving here.
I also have a chi machine and I really do not feel the chi machine is a problem for prolapse, I have had my gallbladder removed and that is the problem I feel when using the chi machine. So when I use it sometimes I can do it and sometimes it hurts. You really have to tune into your body to see what works and what doesn't.
What someone needs to come up with is a exerciser that moves the lymph system effectively but does not hurt or compromise our internal organs.?
Free2be
September 4, 2013 - 1:07pm
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Rebounder
Thanks surviving and rose for your input. What would I do without you gals? As much as I would like to use my rebounder, I am coming to the conclusion that being a 2 mo newbie, I better concentrate on the posture for a while until I get it into 'muscle memory'. I'll keep it tucked under my bed for now and revisit that issue at a later time. Thanks again for responding.
Mikey
September 4, 2013 - 7:50pm
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Chi again
Does anyone else out there have experience with the chi machine and prolapse. I have a friend who has one and says I can borrow it if it could help me. Anyone think it helps?
Surviving60
September 5, 2013 - 10:01am
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Mikey, I don't think you are
Mikey, I don't think you are going to help your prolapse much by lying on your back with legs jiggling, if that's what you mean. Or, like Rose, are you considering using it for other health issues?
If it's prolapse you are focusing on, it's what you do when you're upright that counts. Where are you with posture so far? - Surviving
louiseds
September 6, 2013 - 12:16am
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Chi machine
Here is a link to a video about it, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf7bvKyWHsQ . It looks quite pleasant, but the clinical use of it is for lymphatic drainage. It looks like it flattens the lumbar spine, and that would tilt the pelvis back. You would be wriggling all your pelvic organs back, rather than forwards, where they need to be wriggled to. I would suggest WW firebreathing or WW yoga would be more beneficial for POP.
Mikey
September 6, 2013 - 11:28am
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Just starting
I am doing the posture as well as I can from reading the site. My dvd and bood should be here today or tomorrow. I am just gathering information and am anxious to get started. I wore a pessary for 3 months. The last 3 weeks it wasn't helping anymore. I had it removed yesterday and am better than I was with it.
rose54
September 6, 2013 - 11:51am
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rebounder
As I mentioned in an earlier message I bounce only (briefly) on the rebounder, then I lay on it. I do not know how tall you are that might make a difference, but I lay on it and stretch or just relax, it is very nice to lay flat on. It is hard to explain until someone tries it. Last night I noticed my husband laying on it! And he is quite a bit taller than i am. I saw a video once about a rebounder that had a child curled up sleeping on it!
I think using the rebounder and the chi machine lightly is beneficial mostly for your lymphatic system, and I think many of us women need that. Unless you get a good massage regularly which unfortunately I don't, but would like to.
Surviving60
September 6, 2013 - 1:08pm
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Somebody explain please.....
.....what is the deal with a rebounder? It looks like it's nothing more than a little round trampoline big enough for one person to jump on. With or without something to hold onto. How the heck does one lie down and stretch out on it?? - Surviving
savtahsavav
September 6, 2013 - 1:44pm
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walking
Does anyone know or have experience with whether or not walking is helpful for a prolapse where the organs are outside the body more than inside? Is it better to wait until they are able to stay in to walk or does walking help? Right now it chaffs badly and sometimes causes ulcers when I try it but I am willing to do whatever will bring the most help the quickest. I have heard going up hills helps a lot. I just need advice. I am pretty determined and willing to suffer if something has long range benefits. I got into bad shape because I thought surgery was the only choice with prolapse and I didn't want surgery so I did nothing...for three years....now I have hope so I am willing to do whatever it takes. Thank you
Surviving60
September 6, 2013 - 1:54pm
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Good walking discussion
Savtahsavav, here is a good discussion for you:
https://wholewoman.com/forum/node/5328
osmari
September 6, 2013 - 5:49pm
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Savtahsavav and Surviving60
Sav, I think I have the same problem as you do with organs hanging right out. For the last few days, each day is worse than the day before. It seems I have some sort of slit (about 1/2 inch) which bled a bit the other day. Now even when I lie down, the organ does not go in immediately as it did before. I have bladder and uterine prolapse but I only see one "thing" hanging almost completely out, or so it seems. I am getting more and more confused. I wonder if that slit is actually the cervix or if I cut myself with my nail when I was trying to insert the prolapse. Sav, how long have you had your organs right out?
Surviving, I tried to find node /5328 but it would not appear. (It could be my computer which is acting up.)
Sav, have you thought of getting a fembrace? I have one on order.
rose54
September 6, 2013 - 6:22pm
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rebounder
Surviving, if you get on some different links and/or videos where someone has cured themselves naturally of cancer through green drinks and whole foods, etc. they often mention rebounding. It helps the bodies lymph system move and clear out. I am not really sure how it works, but it does.
I will ask my husband tonight and see if I can direct you to any web sites or places where you can read about it. It really is an amazing device, but I am not sure if it has benefit for prolapse?? That is why I would not readily recommend rebounding on it for women on this forum. I just prefer to lay on it versus the floor which is hard and has no support and the couch which is to cushiony.
So it is just my favorite place to stretch. Of course when you go down on all fours you do have to use the floor.