Homeopathy and pelvic prolapse

I do believe homeopathy is great and can be very helpful for women's issues. When you mention (medicated) Sepia is that a different kind then the regular homepathic Sepia??

I have Sepia 30c, I am not sure if I have 6c. When you say take it for a full month what do you mean??
I thought it was something you take (once) a month??
My homepath is far away and we can mostly only do phone consulations and right now I have not been in contact with her for a while. Maybe this means I should give her a call.?
I am very sensitive to homeopathe and taking supplements, but some make all the difference in getting through each day. Thank you for the suggestion!

Hello Ladies

I'm New here. I'm 33 years old and had a Full Hysterectomy May 23rd 2013. I had my first Surgery when I was 18, "a tennis ball size cyst, wrapped around my Fallopian tube 5 times". I lost that tube. A few years later, I had my second surgery on a 10cm size cyst on my ovary. The doctor was able to save the ovary. Growing up I always wanted to have a child, However If I wasn't on the Pill, my cyst would come back, I had bad Endometriosis, and I also have (IC) Bladder issues. WIth Years of pain, I found the "RIGHT MAN" we were able to get Pregnant :) He is my Angel After having a C-section, my cramping came back. We don't want anymore child, so my OB and I decided to treat my brain into Menopause early by getting shots every 3 months for 6 months. I thought that would have helped, and everything would have been better. It didn't and wasn't. I ended up getting a FULL Hysterectomy. I was feeling good, No more cramping for 3 weeks out of 4, No more roller coaster eating and Mood swings. I was doing good, until..... Post Menopause Hit! I take 2mg of Estrogen and just started using the Estrace Vaginal cream 1g everyday for 2 weeks. The Vaginal dryness, Is NOT FUN! It was hurting to have sex, my face breaking out and that brought me down even more, then with the Hormones, I was/ am a HOT MESS... My Man and I have plans to go to Mexico in 2 weeks, to see if that is were we want to get married... I was TOTALLY excited until Sunday, after Yoga I felt something change inside me... Yep, a Vaginal Prolaspe.... and a REALLY BAD Migraine for the added estrogen. I saw my OB "who I have seen since I was 18" on Tuesday, she said, lets wait to see what happens and if its not better by next week, we might have to do surgery. "she gone all this week" I'm having to put Lidocaine on every couple hrs and I only have 3 pain pills a day. I called and spoke to another doctor today, thinking she could help me do the surgery before the weekend. She wants me to wait for my OB. I dont know whats going to happen, all I want is to feel better and be able to go on our Trip.. Oh, and on Sunday" my Man's company is taking us on a Boat for dinner".. Do you ladies have ANY advise? I'm In pain, should I go into the ER or wait until Monday? Thank you for your time. Many Blessings

Hi B3TTYB00P. I am not clear on what is prolapsing. Is it the bladder, the rectum, or the vaginal walls themselves? There is no “emergency” surgery that would be performed for whatever you are experiencing, but only you can decide if you want to take yourself to the ER or not….we couldn’t possibly advise you on that. Let’s assume for now that you are waiting to see the doctor next week. Your surgical and medication history is indeed rather on the extreme side. Conventional yoga contains many moves that are real killers of pelvic organ support, so I’m not surprised this contributed to things going south, this might have been the final straw in a situation that has been brewing for months and possibly years (if you have focused on this type of “core” work, especially post-hyst). You speak of having more surgery as if it is something that can happen tomorrow and your problems will be over. You aren’t getting very good information from your doctors. What are these shots that you took? What was the ultimate justification given for a hysterectomy? Your post was long but confusing. Take a deep breath and explain things a little more clearly if you can. - Surviving

Hello- Surviving
I'm sorry that my post was confusing, I tend to just Go... I'm trying to work on taking a step back and breath, however things have been stressful.

The Vaginal walls themselves are prolapsing. That's good that it's Not an "Emergency: surgery thing, I didn't want to go anyway. Before the Shots I tried the "Ring" my body didn't like that either. The shots were "LUPRON DEPOT® (leuprolide acetate for depot suspension) 3.75 mg and – 3 Month 11.25 mg is used for the management of endometriosis, including pain relief and reduction of endometriotic lesions. LUPRON DEPOT with daily norethindrone acetate 5 mg is also indicated for initial management of endometriosis and for management of recurrence of symptoms. The recommended initial treatment is no more than 6 months. the shot worked for those 3 months however, after the 6 months I ended up getting a period, "the first one in 9 months" It wasn't Fun. The reason for the Hysterectomy, was I always had issues with, cramping, cyst's, lower back pain, hip pain, mood issues, I was on pain pills 3 weeks out of a month, I needed to something different. I'm a stay at home Mom, my son is 2 1/2 and doesn't nap. Daddy works 12-14hrs days, so I don't get a lot of time to rest.
I thought that the Yoga was helping, I even have a balance ball. I'm trying to get off all these med's and go natural, however, thats pretty hard. I'm willing to do anything to feel better, so we can go on our trip to Mexico.

I hope this helps a little.
Thank you for your time and patience

Hi again B3TTYB00P. I don't want to try and say too much about things I'm not familiar with. I do know that vaginal vault prolapse is something that happens post-hyst when the vaginal walls have not been anchored securely and have lost their support. Normally I would tell anyone who comes on here to do everything possible to avoid going under the knife again. But I honestly don't know what happens over time with a vaginal vault prolapse in a young active woman. Severe cases of the vagina literally turning inside out can only be dealt with surgically.

The docs have already done a number on you. Not blaming them necessarily, but at this point you really do need to ditch the drugs if you possibly can. Hysterectomy is never a cure for back pain, hip pain or mood issues; on the contrary, all of these things can be negatively affected from hysterectomy itself.

I would recommend cultivating Whole Woman posture so that you can learn how NOT to stress the already-precarious pelvic organ support structure that you have left, and also to see if it helps you maintain some degree of proper hip and spine alignment. I don't know if you can avoid more surgery, but you should aim to put it off as long as possible simply because surgeries just beget more surgeries with even worse outcomes. There are also a number of members here who are having good luck with support garments. Again I do not know if these work well with a vaginal vault prolapse. A consult with Christine might be quite beneficial. - Surviving

Hello
Thank you for responding back to me, I have been doing "A lot " of reading on "ALL" of my different issues, its nice to get a second option. I don't get to "Really" talk about All these things with anyone else.

I kind of have" Chirco Pain" All over my body, I have a list of issues. I believe in both medical practices, I have a couple of Great Doctors, however, no one who can help me switch over to herbals and vitamins. I'm going to try to make it to this Support Group in Oct "GAPS" I'm praying that they can help guide me into the natural healthy way of living. Where can I find the information on getting off these Med's? What kind of support garment would I use? Thank you for information. I truly appreciate it. I'll try to contact Christine :)

Many Blessings.

We are leaving for Mexico in 2 weeks, I was working out and walking, should I still be doing those things? or should I wait until I see the OB on Monday. I feel lost, frustrated and not sure what I sure do......

With everything you have been through, it is hard for many of us to say what you should really do. Most of us are not professionals in this area, we just practice whole woman. Some women have come on here that have had hysterectomies, but I don't know for sure what they ended up doing, because the surgeries do change things up in there. I do get saggy vaginal walls, but I also still have my uterus, so I would not feel comfortable telling you to do the traditional whole woman tricks that have helped me, knowing your anatomy is now different. Personally, I wouldn't be doing any exercising until you get this figured out. The support garments are called the v2 supporter and the fembrace. They help for the more profound prolapses, but I don't know if they would help for vaginal prolapse or not. You can google them if you want to look at them. I recently even read about a woman who put a rolled up pad and a g string on for support. Very inventive idea!
I really feel for you, but this is way out of my realm of understanding. I just wanted you to know you are not alone out there.

B3tty, I'm thinking you might want to go on the HysterSisters site and forum, where you are likely to find many more women in your situation than you will find here. We don't have any quick-fix measures (and they won't either) and we can't tell you whether or not it's OK to "work out" without knowing what your workouts consist of. Chances are good that you have been doing plenty of "core" strengthening moves that are okay if you are a man, but unfortunately very bad for women, who have a different core. So yeah, my suggestion is to lay off the workouts for now. Come back and report what the doctor has to say. And do check out HysterSisters on the grounds that they may have more of a population of young post-hyst women with a developing v.v. prolapse, with whom you can compare notes. - Surviving

Todayo, dancing is great as long as you can do it with a lumbar curvature in place, belly relaxed, pelvic organs not being strained. Re-reading this thread I see that you are post-hyst. Do you practice Whole Woman posture and do you find that it helps your symptoms? - Surviving

Thanks for the comments here about sepia, etc. I am thinking I may give my homepath a call, she lives quite far so most of our appt. are phone consultations, but she is great and has been doing homepathy most of her adult life.
I'll let you know. but I do believe you are going in the right direction.
Rose

I don't know about getting stuck, but I am wondering why you would be using this. It seems to me that it's similar to doing lots of Kegeling, which in your situation is something you should be avoiding, because that pulls the organs into the vaginal space. Instead, you want to do everything possible to hold the vaginal vault and remaining organs as far forward in the belly as you can, and we do that with posture, breathing, and targeted exercise. - Surviving

Had to look up jade eggs. Ummm... Huh? The vagina is suppose to be a closed airless space. This would only keep it open, in my opinion.

With the caveat of the posture being the foremost followed by the strengthening exercises ; has anyone tried acupuncture with any positive results for prolapse?

There have been women that have come on here that have done acupuncture, Mayan massage, and other homeopathic and alternative treatments. Some have said that they feel some relief, but I think it always come back to whole woman work for prolapse. Although these treatments can feel good, it takes serious posture work to really manage and/or get our organs into the lower belly where they belong. Just visualizing our organs moving in that direction can be very therapeutic in itself. I know when I am doing my exercise or ww walking, I am always visualizing where my organs are suppose to be moving to. It really makes a difference when you can throw yourself completely into whole woman practices.

I agree with AG - once you understand prolapse and how it is best managed, it becomes more or less self-evident why some of these alternative treatments have no relationship to the actual problem we are trying to address. If any given woman feels that they help, and has time and money to spend on them, I guess that would be her choice, but to me that indicates that more WW study is needed to get these principles across, and more WW work would be a better use of resources. You will get to your "aha" moment if you work hard and have patience and faith. If you don't, you probably won't - Surviving