Quite depressed over this......

Body: 

HI all - so, I started noticing over the summer that things were not right with my body....definitely could identify the rectocele, and more recently noticed not much space in there when using a tampon. Off I went to the Dr on Tuesday to be advised that I have a rectocele, a bladder prolapse and a uterine prolapse. And the world stood still for a few seconds while I tried to absorb this. I am 45 years old and quite fit/active. I am recently divorced, not currently dating or sexually active. But this news has hit to the core of my sexuality.....how the heck does one share this kind of news with a new man, before you get intimate? I feel like I wouldn't want anyone to even touch me right now....and being a very sexual woman, this is absolutely just crushing. My dr gave me a pessary - though now I'm confused as I've read on this site as it can make things worse: it may be good for the uterine prolapse but bad for the rectocele. I must say, of these 3 things, the rectocele (which just sounds gross) has been the easiest to manage as it is really only noticeable (to me) when I need to have a bowel movement. I'm freaking out about the possibility of my uterus dropping all the way thru, and not really happy that i can feel the bladder either. Today I had to remove the pessary after just a few hours as was starting to get some hip pain - I think it perhaps shifts position?? Definitely not an easy task to get it in! When I initially found this site, I was def thinking that I was just gonna have the surgery - I didn't want to wait till things got any worse or it became an emergency. But now after reading on this site I am reconsidering that. Have ordered all the books/dvd's etc and trying to do the WW posture based on what I've read. As someone who has always tried to be slim, without a belly, having to potentially wrap my mind around having a rounded belly is also really difficult (and strikes at the core of what I consider sexy/attractive in a woman). I do weight training and spin classes and if I was told I couldn't do these anymore think I'd really plummet into a depression. Very glad I found this site to know I am not alone (amazing that no-one I know has even heard of these things happening to a woman's body!!) but still does not really change the sadness I feel about it all. I believe that knowledge is power....and I will try to stay positive...just still in the woe-is-me stage right now.

Hi whatdeheck,
I great sympathise and empathise with you and how you feel post prolapse diagnosis. I'm sure your post resonates with most of us on the site. Basically, the vast majority of us would rather not be in that/this position - but here we are! Having/having had to face a reality most of us would rather not have had to face. So initially there's a process of gradually coming to terms with the reality of pop. Alongside we may also need to think about treatment choices.

To my mind it makes sense to try the WW approach first. It's safe, natural and, by the accounts of many women on this site, effective for many women. Women can try this approach and still have choices. However the same is not true of surgery. Once women have undergone surgery, there's no turning back on that decision.

About 2 years ago I experienced debilitating symptoms of pop, mainly uterine prolapse with accompanying pain down my inner thighs and sciatica like pains down my bottom and back of thighs. I was 54 and felt reasonably fit and healthy and amongst other things, a yoga teacher. I also had hardly heard of pelvic organ prolapse and had no idea what to do. The choices I was given were pelvic floor exercises, pessary and surgery if it got worse. However I wasn't very encouraged by these choices and until I found WW I thought it likely that I'd end up with surgery if things didn't significantly improve. I certainly felt I couldn't live like that anymore, i.e. crying a lot on my bed, not knowing what would help or make things worse!

Fortunately I did find WW - and it's been a life-saver! I read the book and followed the dvd practices. It made sense and worked for me. Since then I have practised about 20' a day most days. I try to live in the WW posture and make this my default posture. I have a good diet, try not to be constipated or strain on the loo, I try to reduce my stress levels and increase my happiness levels as much as poss.... The combination and accumulation of living the WW way in the WW posture has significantly improved my symptoms. I'm now mostly symptom free. However for me personally I feel I have a vulnerability and if I don't follow the WW way, then I'm prone to pop symptoms. However I don't freak out anymore - rather it's hey ho - back to taking more care. Who knows - perhaps over time my symptoms will continue to improve... In any case, my pop journey has made me re-consider my life and my health and happiness - and I can honestly say I'm now healthier and happier than I was before my pop symptoms.

Re pessaries - it's worth reading the section on pessaries in the book 'saving the WW' &/or referring to old posts on this forum. In some cases pessaries can actually cause the vaginal passage to expand, which makes sense to anyone who's used them and tried to put them in or take them out. However they do suit some women, apparently mainly women with cystocele. I personally would recommend the WW way first - but the choice is always a personal one of course.

Re sex, in terms of intercourse, from what I've read on this forum, experienced myself and heard from other women re. experiences with men at least, is that they wouldn't have a clue if the woman hadn't discussed it with them. My personal experience is that sex was good for uterine prolapse and sex has been good - perhaps the pop makes it more of a squeeze for the male penis? I've also avoided sex in positions which I thought might press my pelvic organs back and down. My experience is that pop has not been a problem.

Re curves: Yes women are designed to be curvaceous! My image of beauty has changed since understanding pelvic organ support. Natural curves are beautiful!

Good luck with it all. You're not alone. Pop is one of the most common health issues women experience. Knowledge is power - and sangha (community) is support. Women can support and talk to each other.

Have hope - and trust in Life!
wholeowmanukx

Thank you so much! I hope that this will become a positive experience in the long run for me too! I definitely believe that knowledge is power....and I'm willing to try the WW posture, etc and will do the DVD's as well. It's just so depressing..I feel like I've done my part in keeping my body healthy and strong and in good shape and it has betrayed me. Re the sexual aspect, I was actually wondering if it might make it more "snug" for a penis....I guess my fear is that when starting a new relationship (if that day should come!) you would have to tell your partner so that they know what to expect....I don't know that I could be comfortable enough to allow oral sex, as I think that while a penis might not be able to identify lumps n bumps where there shouldn't be lumps n bumps, a tongue and/or fingers would!!! Sigh. Honestly, I feel doomed right now. At least if you are already married, then hopefully you would just work thru this together. Men just have no idea how lucky they are!!!! There are a lot of mental aspects related to this that I need to work on, just as much as the physical issues. A total new outlook on female beauty and exercise and sexuality....3 pretty big areas.....One day at a time.

Life happens like that. To go straight to the really sore point your recent divorce, it is not unusual for a woman to then have a physical reaction to match their sorrow. For others it could be a sudden weight gain, for others breast cancer and so on. This is not too much of a stretch to say this as there have been more and more studies done on the mind/body connection showing this. That does not mean we can blame ourselves or someone else for this, just that it is a natural human physiological process that sometimes occurs in these moments of acute stress. How it all works I can't explain, but possibly if you are at all prone to something happening, that's when it is more likely to happen. So as part of the management it is possible to look at how you are seeing yourself, perhaps as if "your guts have been blown away"? It's a personal metaphor which only you can find. Of course this is simplifying things, there are multi causes for any condition. But no, your body has not betrayed you, it is doing its best to survive, it obviously has been under heavy assault. Take time to consider. Wholewoman posture and other aspects of physical management are an essential main ingredient.
As wholewomanUk has talked about the sex angle, I have little to add except to say that women with prolapse have sex and enjoy it. Some tell their husbands/boy-friends about their prolapse, some don't. You could take the motto, no complaints means no complaints.