When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
Technology never sleeps, however, and we have better tools today for controlling spam than we did just a few years ago. So I am very excited and pleased to bring the forum back online.
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Aging gracefully
March 30, 2014 - 5:47pm
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Hi natural only and welcome,
Hi natural only and welcome,
There is no guarantee that uterine prolapse can be completely reversed; although there is lady, louised, who did just that. It took her years, 4 I think, of serious whole woman work and dedication to do it, but she did. There have been ladies that can maintain a higher level for long periods of time, also without symptoms presenting. And, the younger you are, the better chances you have of reversal. I myself have the more profound uterine prolapse where I actually found my cervix sticking out of my vagina. I have been doing this work for a little over a year. If I keep dedicated to whole woman posture and practices, I can keep my cervix up inside most of the time. Occasionally, I can even get my whole uterus up over the pubic bone into the lower belly for a few days at a time. Big progress in my mind from where I started.
For most of us, especially those of us who started this at an older age, we consider this prolapse management which also has the benefit of helping our hips and spine stay strong.
Read as much as you can and start working on the posture as soon as you can get a good understanding of the principles of it. This is a lifetime of work that will benefit all of us no matter what kind of prolapse we have.
56 and falling apart
March 30, 2014 - 6:13pm
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Hi Natural Only
I have been dealing with prolapse for only a month. Told I had rectal, bladder, and uterine. Doctor wanted to do surgery...discovered this site and ordered Christine's book and DVD. I don't really notice bladder or rectal prolapse but the uterus does slip down to the opening of my vagina. When that happens I just bend over and push it back up. If I am able I try to sit or lay down for a while. I find I have many good days but on my 10 hour days at daycare( teacher) I make it about halfway through the day before I feel it down with the heaviness and being uncomfortable. It then usually won't stay up so I just try to get to bed early that night and stay off my feet. I always start off the day good. One week it stayed up for 5 days. I learn to break up my errands and housework and not be superwoman trying to do it all. I have stopped lifting anything heavier than a milk jug. The kids have to climb into my lap for love since I won't pick them up. I find that yelling across the playground etc will put too much pressure down there and it starts to slip on down. So no more yelling... I have been doing as much of the DVD exercises that I can just about every day. I try to walk in the posture. I write down on my calendar when I have a bad prolapse day. I find weekends are great and most days are good except on my two long work days. So far so good and I feel like I am toning up my body since I really never exercised except for walking. My new motto of course is change the posture, change the prolapse.
Natural only
March 30, 2014 - 6:32pm
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Prolapse
Aging Gracefully,
Thanks so much for your response. I would like a realistic goal here. I know I have to work on my posture and strengthening exercises, but if the most I can achieve and maintain is having everything inside, then that's what I'll work for. I read that it could be reversed, and it sounded as if a lot of women were doing it. I know some websites promise the world and don't deliver.
I am 66, to be 67 this year. My uterus was in my vagina on Friday, and that scared the heck out of me, but it hasn't been sticking out. I want to do everything I can to keep it inside. I've read that some of the ladies have symptoms, but I just felt a fullness in my vaginal area and found a bulge when I checked. Then I found out what it was. I went to work and tried to keep my mind on work while I was really thinking about what was going on with my body. I did some google work and found Christine's website. I was so thankful someone was knowledgeable about this. All mainstream medicine wants to do is surgery.....and that doesn't work, and puts us at higher risk for more prolapses.
I'm a widow and only have myself and my animals to take care of. I have a caring family, but no one living with me....so I can devote time to the Whole Woman practices.
You said you can keep your uterus up over the pubic bone and into the lower belly. How do you accomplish this? How do you know when it's there? That is excellent progress indeed.
Thanks for your help and encouragement. I cant' wait to get Christina's book and DVD.
Natural Only
Aging gracefully
March 30, 2014 - 7:36pm
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Once you get your book and
Once you get your book and DVD a lot of this will become more clear to you, but to get a uterus up over the pubic bone into the lower belly takes some work. A lot of us do jiggling which was an invention of one of the ladies here on this site where you bend over touching a chair or the floor and just jiggle and/ or bounce up and down. This is followed up by firebreathing, a technique Christine discusses in her book and DVDs. Now, in the beginning, I couldn't get it to stay there, it would fall back and into my vagina most of the time. I started with a retroverted uterus to begin with. Doctors told me in my twenties that I had a tipped uterus. Posture work, the exercises on the DVDs, whole woman walking, jiggling and firebreathing does start to show results even for us ladies with the more profound uterine prolapse.
I would like to keep it over the pubic bone into the lower belly more often, but I take what I can get.
And, if just keeping my cervix inside is all I am going to get, I am good with that.
Best wishes to you!!
Natural only
March 30, 2014 - 7:52pm
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It sound like, if I work at
It sound like, if I work at it hard enough, I'll have good days and some not so good days. But I agree with you Aging Gracefully, if I can keep it inside -- I'll consider that a positive outcome.
After your responses, ladies, I am really eager to get Christine's book and DVD. I want to get started right away. I've got to find out about firebreathing and jiggling.
Thank you so much for your kind responses.
Good luck with your endeavors also.
Aging gracefully
March 30, 2014 - 8:00pm
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Just so you know, jiggling is
Just so you know, jiggling is not in the book or DVDs. If you type it in the search box, you will get loads of hits on it though.
mulherenteira
April 2, 2014 - 8:55am
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Is it true that women who
Is it true that women who have a retroinverted uterus are more likely to have prolapse?
Aging gracefully
April 2, 2014 - 9:49am
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In my mind, having a
In my mind, having a retroverted uterus is all ready the beginnings of prolapse, because the uterus has fallen back from its antiverted position in the lower belly into the vagina. How long it takes to continue into vaginal space is another question. Mine was retroverted from my twenties on. I could not feel my cervix back then, so it was still up there pretty high. But, all the heavy lifting, bad posture, and soft furniture, and straining on the toilet throughout the years changed that . I did feel changes, especially when I hit my forties, but chose to ignore them, until I found my cervix sticking out of me.
So, doing this work is especially important for those ladies who are told they have a retroverted uterus, so they can get it forward into the lower belly where it belongs.
Traveller1980
April 15, 2014 - 8:12pm
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Bladder prolapse
My bladder usually comes down low after I have had a bowel movement, and stays down most of the morning. I am wondering if it is okay to carefully push it back while covering it with a 'baby wipe' so as not to scratch the bladder.Sometimes I can urinate when I do this, otherwise I feel like I need to urinate and can't, then later I suddenly need to urinate and have the same urgency feeling. Today I noticed a spot of blood on a pad I was wearing, but it was not coming from the urine. I thought I had probably scratched the bladder by pushing it. Should I not be doing this?
Surviving60
April 16, 2014 - 6:10am
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Pushing on 'celes
Before I actually knew what was going on down there, I used to push my 'celes around from time to time, but it never really made much difference in the long run. This is different from a prolapsed uterus which can and should be pushed into a better position from time to time (AG and Fab have posted often about this). If the cystocele is causing urination issues, posture and body positions when urinating should help - keep lumbar curvature in place and lift a little bit up and forward as is illustrated in Christine's book. Posture, jiggling and firebreathing are more effective at getting the bladder out of the way than pushing it around, in my experience. - Surviving
Honney
April 16, 2014 - 11:40pm
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Books andDVD'S
Hello to you all, I have received my books and DVD'S this morning,watched them and really find them very helpful.Much much better to spend the time doing the exercises and be patient than to have surgery for prolapse. I am 64 and remember in primary school we were taught good posture. We have gone wrong somewhere along the way. Thanks to Christine we are very lucky.
Surviving60
April 17, 2014 - 5:09am
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Honney, I'm the same age as
Honney, I'm the same age as you, and I don't remember ever being "taught" anything but the wrong stuff.....shoulders back, stomach pulled in. in our culture, you generally have to look at younger children to see true, correct posture in its natural form. This is what we're striving for, a return to that natural shape that supports our organs and stabilizes our hips and spine. Yes we have definitely gone wrong along the way. But we all have WW posture buried somewhere in our subconsious. When I got mine back, it was like finding something valuable that had been misplaced decades ago. - Surviving