When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
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Surviving60
December 30, 2014 - 7:24am
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Hi ComputerGal and welcome.
Hi ComputerGal and welcome. Just a couple of questions for clarification. What was the huge abdominal repair referenced in your first paragraph? And what exactly do you mean by a vaginal prolapse? It sounds like you still had your uterus at the time this was identified, and I don’t think a prolapse of the vaginal vault can even occur in the presence of a uterus. So, are you talking about a uterine prolapse?
Most women come here when they are at the pink beach ball stage, and we tell them how they can stabilize and manage prolapse safely and naturally. We have kept many women from going under the knife. Wish you had found us then.
Anyway, those couple of clarifications might help us understand your situation in a more complete light. - Surviving
Christine
December 30, 2014 - 5:09pm
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chronic pain
Hi ComputerGal,
I am sorry to hear of your troubles. This is why at WW we try to make women aware of all the ways they can be snagged by the modern medical system. There is no surgical treatment for prolapse and the more operations a woman undergoes, the less she has of her natural pelvic organ support system.
From the WW perspective, after abdominoplasty, hysterectomy, sacrocolpopexy, and suburethral sling, there is really only palliative care. An anti-inflammatory diet, meditation, natural pain relief (for instance, cannabis preparations are now legal in several U.S. states for people with chronic pain), an external support garment such as the V2 Supporter (prenatalcradle.com), learning about WW posture (there is a clip on YouTube), and massage/myofascial therapies, are things you might benefit from. Many WW exercises forcefully move the organs forward, but there is no way to know whether these might compromise both the sacrocolpopexy and the sling.
I wish we could be of more help but am sending hope for relief from the pain!
Christine
ComputerGal
January 7, 2015 - 3:16pm
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myofascial pelvic pain
Hi, I'm back. I've been sick, so not online. Yes, Christine, I did mean uterine, not vaginal, duh. I had an abdominal hernia repair because I was very tiny & my son very large & breach. It tore me apart pretty bad. By the time the doctor realized I couldn't have a natural birth, it was too late. We both nearly died. Consequently, my muscles were extended beyond the "yield" point, & I always looked several months pregnant afterwards even tho I weighed 104 lbs. So after I had my daughter later, I had the abdominal hernia repair. But nothing was done back then that left you physically pretty like they do now, thus the huge scar & scar tissue to match.
I have been looking for answers forever. It doesn't seem like there is one simple answer but a mix of several combined. My best guess is when one thing goes out of whack, it snowballs & all kinds of things can happen that make it harder to find where to start fixing things first. I think the first to go was my immune system. Then my back started having big problems. Then what I thought was my back was diverticulitis infections which I'm controling with probiotics. But I was still getting unexplained pain so I kept assuming it was my back until the doctor at Loyola said it was this myofascial pelvic pain! Something I never heard of before. Apparently the muscles involved are, bear with me on the spelling, the Quadratus lumborum, the Iliacus, & psoas. I know they are deep inside & I can feel them when they are starting to become inflamed.
I am getting the PT treatment for this, was anyway, will again, when the therapist calls back. She is good. I am taking liquid suppliments for my thyroid & body nurishment. It seems to have helped. Thank goodness, we are not ones to eat junk food. We have venison & other game, and I make most things from scratch, but I still remain as much overweight now as I was too thin 20 years ago.
Anyway, I was having a really bad day and needed to cry on paper, so to speak. I just wanted to know if there was anyone else out there dealing with the same issues. Thanks for taking the time to answer me.