perineal massage

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this keeps coming up amongst my pregnant friends. I, too, had been shown how to do perineal massage while pg in hopes of avoiding tears. I did this with my first, and I tore anyway. The next time around I was seeing a mw who said perineal massage hasn't been shown to prevent tears but it couldn't hurt. I didn't do it during pg #2, did it during #3. I'm not sure which birth left my perineum in the sorry state that its in, probably a combo (#1 was lithotomy position with epidural, #2 got stuck, his big head on a cervical lip, and #3 was the full squat episode)
Now I am wondering if maybe its not a good thing to stretch the perineum that way, wouldn't that make the tissues less resilient?
what are your thoughts?

I heard that briefly when i was taking the prenatal class for my 1st. I really don't think it would make a difference. How much can we externally stretch the area to prepare for a baby's head and shoulders to come thru. Also, what can prepare out poor pelvic area from the incredible force from bearing down to give birth while on our backs! Ouch! Just thinking about it again makes me quiver. :)o

I sometimes have flashbacks or "reflect" over a lot of different things thru my pregnancy and postpartum that i could have done to prevent this. But then I just come to a full circle again. This forum has helped me deal with some of the guilt or inklings for "do-overs". Thanks ladies!

Ha! Glad it's not just me that does that! I spend ages over it... did I walk too much in pregnancy? Push a heavy buggy too much, do too much exercise? Did I push too much at the front, did I walk too quickly after delivery? (I went home straight away after the birth and there was a LONG walk to the car). Should I have paid more attention to late pregnancy pubic bone pain.. done my pelvic floors better.. on and on. At the end of the day I'm here now and doing my best to improve the situation and address it. It happens to so many women postpartum (although I've not come across them?!) that I guess there's not loads any of us could have done to prevent it but it's so difficult to stop obsessing!

I tried perinal massage a couple of times earlier in my second pregnancy, but as my belly got bigger, I couldn't reach. Didn't do it at all with m y third and didn't not tear with my second or my third. I think massage is good for anyone who has been abused or for someone who might be afraid of the "ring of fire" (which I did not experience at all with number 2 and only slightly with #3. It was helpful that my midwife did it during late labor so I could focus on where the baby would be coming. But I really think studies have shown it really doesn't matter when it comes to tears.

Jane