Hi all,
Another woman joins the troops! My story is just beginning - and I'm in need of your advice on where to go from here as I have not been officially diagnosed yet.
I'm 34, never married but with a loving partner, never had children, and had been spending the last 10 years of my life living my dream - moving to New York, going to grad school, and after years of hustling, finally landing my dream job with a big promotion a few months ago. I was on top of the world and ready to start the most productive period of my life.
Of course my body found that a perfect time to unleash a surprise that has been building over my lifetime. I have suffered from chronic constipation ever since I was a young girl. In my 20s a gynecologist told me I had an inverted/tipped uterus but not to worry about it.
Symptoms
2 months ago a disturbing symptom emerged - a strange wetness/mucus leakage from my butt that had a foul odor - needless to say, this odor wafting from me was a disaster for the open office/workplace environment and my position as a team leader. I was horrified and baffled and my physician couldn't explain it either.
In the last week my symptoms have been increasing rapidly and in severity:
- Shooting pains in my rectum and vagina and across my sitz bones jolt me awake at 2am like clockwork every night - can barely sleep
- Anal sphincter closes tightly and spasms, and then other times hangs open like it's very loose exposing air/contents of bowels - I suspect because there is pressure/weight on rectum/anus that makes it feel like I have to poop but there is nothing actually there, so it is confused
- Constant feelings of urge to use the restroom (pee & poop) but nothing happening
- Burning in urethra and aching like menstrual cramps across uterus
- Insides feel so heavy, feel I have to slump when I'm standing up
- Difficulty breathing, I can only breathe in short shallow breaths
- Feeling like I'm sitting on an egg, when leaning forward can feel a bulge in vagina
- Having to do strange postures to poop: standing over toilet and pushing on my inner right buttcheek, near the anus. Crossing my left ankle over my right knee and leaning to the right. This is all just to get liquid diarrhea out!
Chronic constipation: a complicating factor
The bowel movements are a huge complicating factor for me. I have had IBS-like symptoms my whole life and have often ignored the urge to go, which resulted in very large poops that no doubt put a strain on my whole system. I rarely feel the urge to go anymore, I suspect I have a slow colon/colonic inertia, and I want to begin healing my gut and start listening and responding to my body (as advocated by Jini Patel Thompson: http://www.listentoyourgut.com). I haven't had a normal poop in a few weeks, and my tongue is covered with white stuff due to acid reflux, breath smells horrible. Can't take more fiber because it stops me up.
Stress, Trauma, Grief
The emotional experience I'm going through is *crushing* - it's a grief and a trauma I haven't experienced since the loss of my mother 15 years ago when I was in college. She died from a small bowel obstruction (she required surgery but she refused and turned to God for a miracle that never happened). I suspect she may have also had pelvic prolapse - but of course no one in the family will discuss this. I am on medical leave now and will probably have to resign from the job I had worked so hard to get. My situation is also putting a lot of stress on my relationship - I have a kind and loving partner but can tell burnout is starting to happen.
Doctors seen:
- I went to the emergency room a few nights ago because I thought there was a bowel obstruction or fecal impaction. The MRI contrast scan showed no abnormalities, except a uterine fibroid and also the comment that there was a lot of air in my vagina. They sent me home with stool softeners - useless.
- Gastroenterologist examined my rectum digitally and with anascope and said he could not detect rectal prolapse. Prescribed valium because my anal sphincter was tensing up and spasming (and also because I was an emotional wreck in his office). Prescribed Linzess for the constipation.
- Gynecologist did not notice anything during my annual exam/pap last week.
- Urogynecologist examined me in vagina/rectum while lying down said she could not feel any prolapse symptoms. Said I should explore my constipation issues more with my GI doctor.
- Colorectal surgeon said I have larger than average internal hemorrhoids and couldn't detect rectocele with his anascope but said he wouldn't rule out the possibility but would need colonoscopy.
I am overwhelmed because I have overlapping medical conditions that need to be treated holistically. My constipation issues and straining over a lifetime have no doubt contributed to prolapse but the prolapse has probably also made it harder for me to evacuate. It's a vicious cycle that I desperately want to break but need a team of integrated health specialists to help me do this!! Otherwise each specialist just sees their part of the picture, which is incomplete.
Next Steps: Which diagnostic tests should I push for?
The worst part is - no one has officially diagnosed me with prolapse. These quickie manual office exams with their hands isn't cutting it. I need to push them for a true diagnostic:
1) I live in New York and want to make an appointment for an MRI Defecography (http://www.mdrny.com/content.php?sect=whatsnew&sub=01_005).
2) Or does anyone know if I can ask for a vaginal ultrasound to at least get a quick picture of what's going on inside?
3) My GI doctor has also recommended a colonoscopy to rule out any disorders/diseases of the colon/bowels. I am afraid this will disturb my prolapse condition even further - does anyone know if this is a risk??
If anyone can help with next steps regarding testing/diagnostics, I would be truly grateful.
In the meantime I have reached out to a Whole Woman practitioner here in New York and our first session is in a week. I have also booked an appointment with Beyond Basics, a PT program that includes pelvic floor dysfunctions (http://www.beyondbasicsphysicaltherapy.com). Is there anything else I can be doing in the meantime?
Thank you for reading this far and letting me vent. I am so grateful for Christine and that this community exists to help women connect with each other and with our bodies. I realize now that I have been so out of touch with my body and what it wants and needs. I know there is a very long healing and learning journey ahead of me but I will take it one step at a time and hopefully with this supportive group of women we can all help each other through the dark days.
With appreciate and gratitude,
BeingHuman
Ailiann
March 21, 2015 - 10:47am
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((((((Hugs))))))
Hello BeingHuman, I'm so sorry you're going through this. I'm very new here myself, and I'm afraid I have no medical advice to offer, but I do want to reach out to you and let you know you're not alone. I hope your consult with the Whole Woman practitioner is very helpful and that you get some answers and some relief soon. Also check out the resources here and try getting into Whole Woman posture. Somehow, let's keep the faith that we will get through this and see better days.
curiousity
March 21, 2015 - 12:34pm
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BeingHuman
I think you've hit the nail on the head when you say that you have overlapping medical conditions that need to be treated holistically. Unfortunately many of us have found that traditional medical approaches to female pelvic issues just don't do this. So this is what I would say at this point in your journey (others might chime in with different advice):
1. Take a deep breath. Easier said than done, but stress is not going to help the situation in your bowels. Do you have any activities that you find deeply relaxing? Meditation, taking a long bath, reading, watching a good series on TV, walking, all of the above...
2. Address the constipation. Again, totally easier said than done, after a life-time of it. This could take many months or longer to sort out, but try and work on your diet to minimise your constipation. As many of us who have been on this forum for a while have learnt, it is usually a very individual thing. Some cannot tolerate dairy, some wheat, some sugar. Whatever it is, experiment with your diet and try and find the things that lessen or exacerbate your constipation. For me, it came down to minimising sugar, eating leafy greens and probiotic yoghurt every day. (I did not have the chronic constipation that you have had, more of a tendency in that direction, but what I can say is having a normal BM in the morning is a pretty good indicator that my POP symptoms will be kept at bay for the day).
3. Learn the posture. You've got a consult booked - this is great. With this help, you will probably get it a lot quicker than a lot of us did. Until you see the practitioner, lots of getting down on forearms and knees and deep breathing into your belly might help you move your uterus off your rectum. Leaning forward rather than back on the toilet while you pee and poop will help your organs empty properly, but the practitioner will cover this.
4. I would tend to leave the other medical diagnostic procedures for now. Vaginal ultrasound isn't really going to help you, as your organs do different things based your position, time of month, how full your bowels and bladder are etc etc. And the others sound pretty intrusive and stressful to me, not something you need at this point. You can always come back to them later if you feel you need them.
5. With the burning in urethra, it might pay to rule out UTI. If you do have one, treat it and hopefully that will be one less thing to worry about.
All the best , and let us know how you are going.
Pack Momma
March 21, 2015 - 2:04pm
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Hi and welcome to the forum.
Hi and welcome to the forum. I agree with the above mentioned responses. You have reached a point where you are now willing to listen to your body and unfortunately in today's society our body tends to be forced to take a back seat to the pressing moment of the need of the moment. You do have a multi faceted situation and I believe that all are little things are part of a bigger whole. There isn't going to be a one size fits all solution, but you have come to the right place. Take each little victory as it comes when it comes and don't dwell on the problems. A building is made up of one brick at a time. I really don't have anything more to add that hasn't been said already so I wish you wellness and healing and remember all things take time
BeingHuman
March 21, 2015 - 2:17pm
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Great to hear from you!
@Ailiann Thanks for the virtual hugs, very much needed especially for us newbies. Would like to stay active in this community and add to the network of support!!
@curiousity Truly appreciate your thoughtful response. I was desperately seeking answers from the medical community and making appointment after appointment with different doctors and specialists only to realize with disappointment that they didn't have answers and could have no clue about the holistic picture and what's going on. I just wish I could have a professionally trained partner (naturopath?) who could help me on this holistic journey over the long-term.
As far as the diagnostic tests, I just feel uncomfortable not knowing EXACTLY what prolapses I have and to what DEGREE they have advanced. Many women on this forum can at least say "I have this, this, and this" but I truly don't know what I have. Although - even with knowing - not sure what else I could do, since I'm actively trying to avoid surgery.
I will start with posture and breathing and try to manage that first and take it slower with the medical consultations and tests - I have to accept I won't be able to solve this all quickly.
Thank you again for your kind words. I'm just a few weeks into this "new normal" and every day some new sensation comes up that I've never felt before and it can be scary. Want to get in touch with my body and work with it towards healing.
BeingHuman
March 21, 2015 - 2:20pm
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Thank you for the welcome
@SafelyHeld and @PackMomma thanks for the welcome, it feels good to be heard and I look forward to updating you and this group with the good the bad and the ugly in my journey. My goal is to have a great post in the success stories forum!! It may take months or years but I will get there!! Strength and peace to you all.
ActiveandLapsed
March 21, 2015 - 2:24pm
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BeingHuman
Well you have come to the right place. First off, I'm sorry to hear your story. Yes it does seem like you may be attacking this from several angles as many of us do. I'm guessing you have done lots of work on what diet works for you. I have had to tweak and research that one.
I can't comment on the medical stuff but certainly the posture and the toilet positions will help. Constipation is something I have to be very careful of but diet and WW work help me. Emotionally this work has also been very helpful.
All the best and keep us updated on how you do.
By the way I had prolapse before having kids I just didn't know until I got on this site.
BeingHuman
March 21, 2015 - 2:30pm
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Contortions galore!
@ActiveandLapsed - yes the posture and the toilet positions really help! Have to admit, like others on this site I learned a lot from the infamous "LoPo" position - that has really helped a lot in the last day or two!!
Ladies, we are truly blessed to be living in the digital/internet era - if I didn't have access to this knowledge I'm not sure what I would do!! I've learned from so many tips here that have kept my sanity together.
On that note - I wish Christine's materials were available on-demand and digitally LOL. Like Kindle/Amazon streaming. I don't even think I have a DVD player anymore and I can't wait for the book to be shipped!!
Surviving60
March 21, 2015 - 2:32pm
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DPF
Hi Being Human - you should check out Destination Prolapse Free! - Surviving
ActiveandLapsed
March 21, 2015 - 2:34pm
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Destination Prolapse
Yeah I think it's just destination prolapse free that is available in that medium but they are working on the others being available that way too.
Have you been on youtube and viewed the snippets there. There is also a lot on here to get started but yes I realise we all just want to get going right away.
Oh, yes we are so lucky to have this info and the chance to communicate in this way at our fingertips.
BeingHuman
March 21, 2015 - 3:15pm
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Sweet!
@Surviving60 and @ActiveandLapsed... sweet I will check those out, thank you!
ActiveandLapsed
March 21, 2015 - 3:36pm
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Prolapse Free
Yeah that prolapse free is a good deal as I have bought the stuff separately but would have spent the same. I have collected them over time but whatever works.
It is so great that the new posts lately have been ...." I have ordered some material and am saying hi". What a wonderful group of women that are so keen to learn and support this work. Of course I get nothing for saying this but I want Christine supported in every way so we can all benefit from her work.
BeingHuman
March 21, 2015 - 5:11pm
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Modern digital world
@Surviving60 I just purchased the full package online and streaming all the videos and reading all the ebooks on my tablet. Hallelujah for the modern age bringing me wisdom from older civilizations' history LOL
Surviving60
March 21, 2015 - 5:23pm
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BeingHuman
I'm with you girl, enjoy!! - Surviving