When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
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Surviving60
December 30, 2015 - 5:24am
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Perfectly normal
Yes, GlassBead, this is just normal garden-variety rectocele you are describing. Straining on the toilet, especially in bad posture with flattened lumbar curve, is one of the worst things for prolapse. Have you been working on Whole Woman posture? This condition is quite manageable and there's no need for you to let it drive you crazy. - Surviving
karend
December 30, 2015 - 1:52pm
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bladder prolapsse
hi friends, can somebody please help me which exercises really help prolapse, i have tried floor and standing, but sometimes standing exercises i feel my bladder coming down, should i continue only posture and floor exercises, need help thks
Aging gracefully
December 30, 2015 - 2:13pm
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Hi karend,
Hi karend,
I have been reading over some of your older posts and it seems you are having the same issues. We did suggest a Skype with a whole woman practitioner, because it may be that you are not getting some of the important aspects of the posture down? Wondering if that is a consideration that you may want to persue.
We have also suggested jiggling and firebreathing several times a day, whole woman walking, any of Christine's videos; have you had a chance to do any of these on a regular basis?
The thing about this work is to really dedicate yourself to it to start to feel results. And, you have to give it the time it is due.
As far as feeling prolapse slipping down or becoming more noticeable during the standing exercises, I had that in the beginning too, but I just kept at it until that feeling became less and less noticeable.
GlassBead
December 31, 2015 - 3:07am
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I've bought Christines book
I've bought Christines book yesterday. I'm gonna start working on WW posture excersise. I couldn't find any info about such postures as jiggling and fire breathing there. Probably it's in DVD? or how to sit in posture if you have to sit whole working day. I guess you just have to keep your shouldes down, keep your back straight?
Surviving60
December 31, 2015 - 3:35am
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GlassBead
I worked just from the book for my first year, so you should find everything you need to get started and to really give you an understanding of prolapse. Posture and firebreathing are included (unless somehow you ended up with the old first edition - orange cover - hope you have the blue one!).
You will want to add the basic First Aid for Prolapse DVD sooner or later - OK to build your collection piecemeal although the bundles are a great deal. The visuals are important - you will be able to build yourself a good base of knowledge in how to go about day-to-day managing this. I think once you have started working with the DVD, all of this will start to click faster. - Surviving
GlassBead
December 31, 2015 - 6:01am
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new kegels
Thank you so much Surviving60 for being so helpful :)
One more question, for how long one should be doing the new Kegels? For example. 10 minutes a day, or is there any rectrictions. or the more you do, the better it is?
Surviving60
December 31, 2015 - 7:51am
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new kegels
"New Kegels" are just pelvic tilts with proper breathing sequence, as shown here:
https://wholewoman.com/blog/?p=1528
This is just a series of clips from the dvd, "Saving the Whole Woman", and other bits and pieces.
No, there is no restriction or recommendation. Maintaining posture is job #1; exercises with correct posture and breathing are one of the ways we support posture. - Surviving
Aging gracefully
December 31, 2015 - 8:11am
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Glassbead,
Glassbead,
Whole Woman isn't about doing a few exercises to make prolapse go away, but more about getting all the aspects of posture down, and then moving throughout your day in the best posture you can.
The rest is used to support the posture and if you aren't constantly working on the posture, the exercises are pretty useless.
Can you tell us what the posture means to you? What understanding of it have you gotten from the book? This way we may be able to help you tweak some problems you are having with it.
GlassBead
January 1, 2016 - 2:25am
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Posture
Of course, I know it won't go away with excersises. I just want to not to worsen it any further. And make my symptoms less affect my everyday activities. As I understand correct ww posture is basis to keep pelvic floor as comfortable as I can and let them find their way to where they supposed to be. I have to train myself to relax my lover belly when standing in correct posture. Somehow I can't catch the feeling of abdomen being pulled up from last pair of ribs.
The worst symptom is inability to have proper BM, and I think I can feel this bulge in my vaginas even. Scarry. Have to train myself. Splinting doesn't work.
Anyway, I believe I will manage through it.
Happy and healthy new year to everyone !
Aging gracefully
January 1, 2016 - 7:42am
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Hi glassbead,
Hi glassbead,
I am still sensing some confusion with the basic aspects of posture here. Christine teaches us that we don't have a pelvic floor but a pelvic outlet out the back of us, while our organs are ideally resting in our lower bellies.
It does take time and study to get all this down. Reread the chapter on posture in the book and do some of those exercises in the back as a good start. For many of us, it took months of just studying the materials and working on the posture to really understand it and get it right.
If you like more of a visual, The First Aid for Prolapse is a great DVD to use.
Also, Christine has The whole woman solution to pelvic organ prolapse online course, where she does the talking and gives you the instruction.
Just remember that it does take time, study, and diligence to get all this down.
Aussie Soul Sister
January 4, 2016 - 3:03pm
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Dear GlassBead,
Dear GlassBead,
Yes sometimes I have felt something there and there has been a small BM.
I believe the sphincter nerves were damaged during a forceps delivery and sometimes I have no sensation of a BM being ready to come & just know to give a little push sometimes and there it is....
Sometimes wind can be mistaken for a BM also....
Other times I think the pressure that I have felt of something in the anus to be hemorrhoids, which I had particularly after giving birth.
I am careful to keep them at a minimum with WWPosture and diet.
I also believe that any pressure in the rectal area can be caused by my cervix which can sit to the left and put pressure on my rectocele and anus, particularly at the end of the day, sitting here at the computer for too long, and not being diligent enough with the posture.
I am working on getting her ( cervix) up higher and being on my feet and not sitting too long really helps as an adjunct to the posture. She can be in the same place as described with no extra pressure on my rectocele.
I hope this helps,
Best wishes and Happy New Year!
Aussie Soul Sister
P.S To clarify the position of my cervix is at the same height of the pubic bone, however mostly it sits to the left of it. When I started with WW it was down further.
I believe that other organs can effect/contribute to pressure in the anus and rectocele from pressure on internal tissue from above.
GlassBead
January 3, 2016 - 10:53am
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firebreathing
I have a question regarding firebreathing. In Christines book there is said that when inhaling and exhaling nothing is moving, except abdominal muscles involved, but in picture is showing upper back quite bent when exhaled. Does it means when pressing air out I should bend my shoulders a bit. Or is that my english I can't get the idea correct?
Surviving60
January 3, 2016 - 11:07am
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firebreathing
I think that statement (about nothing else moving) is confusing. Just follow the directions closely regarding the body positions while inhaling and exhaling. I did better learning firebreathing after I had the DVD for a live demo. - Surviving
Aging gracefully
January 3, 2016 - 11:08am
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Hi glassbead,
Hi glassbead,
You may want to start out with the firebreathing on all fours, and then graduate to the standing position. Christine also demonstrates the standing firebreathing in the First Aid for Prolapse dvd. That was really helpful for me to understand and get it down better.
On the exhale, your body does round a bit more. For me, it was easier to watch it in action to really understand the motions.
GlassBead
January 3, 2016 - 11:14am
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Oh, Thanks, yes, a bit round
Oh, Thanks, yes, a bit round back when exhaling :) Thank you!