going to the doctor first?

Hello Julie~

If you choose to see a doctor, I would recommend a urogyne. They are specialized in the pelvic floor and will let you know what you are facing. But...in the meantime, I would encourage you to download "the posture" and start implementing this. I think you will be pleasantly surprised at how well you will feel. And if it is a UP you are dealing with, one can only assume you will have that under control when seeing the doctor.

Read all the question, replies and use what will suit you. Questions? Ask away - we all have something in common.

Sybille

Welcome, Julie!

This work is all about treating ourselves, because in actuality we are the only ones who can change our posture, which will in turn change the prolapse. Sure, get a diagnosis...but understand that the naming of the condition is all part of a system that compartmentalizes prolapse and treats it from a foundation based on erroneous assumptions. It is highly likely that both your bladder and uterus have come down in tandem. Regardless, the work is the same. Study the posture download and begin the work with all your heart.

Wishing you well,

Christine

Hi Julie,

I just wanted to respond to your question about getting a pap smear. I personally think it is important to do at least every couple of years. It is very easy and quick and can diagnose cervical cancer at a very early stage. If you don't like doctors, have you considered going to a midwife? I switched from an OB/GYN to a midwifery practice during my second pregnancy and I really love it. The midwives actually talk to me for more than 30 seconds and feel very much like my colleagues in treating my body, not my superiors like some doctors can.

As far as Christine's discovery of the posture for prolapse, I think it is wonderful and if you stick with it you should see some results. It has been great for me.

Best wishes,

Pam

I hate to be so cynical, but I don't believe doctors of medicine can be natural in their approach, because that is not what they've been trained to do. They've been trained to use drugs and surgery-- that is what makes them doctors of medicine. They get very little if any nutritional training on how to help their patients prevent disease, and so they only know to use drugs and other things to address symptoms of disease and not cures. Thank God for doctors because they have a speciality that can save lives and we do need them in certain circumstances.

However, I have not been officially diagnosed with prolapse (mine is universal--bladder, uterus, and rectum), but I KNOW that is what has happened. I know what I FEEL. And after the research I have done, on prolapse I don't believe doctors have any methods that can help me.

I did a ton of research 2 years ago when I realized what had happened and came across a site that was a support group for prolapse, but was dismally depressing. There were women of all ages, just like on here, who were suffering through this with only a scalpel to guide them. There was no hope. Women talked about all the restrictions their doctors gave them: no heavy lifting, lying down is the only way to relieve the symptoms, gravity and weight bearing are the enemy. This advice given to new mothers who had 40 pound toddlers who still needed to be carried, lifted into carseats and cribs, etc. What a horrible prognosis. How could these women care for their babies? This advice also given to very active middle aged and older women who had emptied their nests were anxious to explore things they had always longed to do, like hiking, horseback riding, etc. But the only solution these doctors had for their patients was CONFINEMENT. DON'T's. HOPELESSNESS. NO FULL LIFE. I really was taken aback.

I was scared and depressed after this discovery. To make matters worse many of these women had had several surgeries to "repair" the prolapse and still didn't feel well or needed yet more surgeries or new problems with elimation had arisen. Or had one surgery but the list of Don't's and sideline-sittting-out-of-life advice was stressed even more than before the surgery as the repairs are so fragile and temporary. There was no empowerment on that list. No hope.

Here, Christine touts what we can do to help ourselves. Gravity is our friend if we hold our postural alignment in line with the divine design. We can walk, run, lift, as long as we respect our design. Listen to our bodies, rest often, but don't sit on the sidelines. LIVE! I feel empowered here to do. I am a current failure at diet (even after 10 years of researching what is most healthful, I can't abandon my meat or my soda and have trouble getting enough fresh food), but I am making great strides in improving my posture, feeling how my body feels best, experiementing with pillows for support in different places while I drive, relax in front of the t.v. or with a book, sitting on the floor in tailor position (indian style we called it when I was a kid), watching the I stand tall, ears to the sky, chin tucked, with downward, unpinched shoulders, with a nice lumbar curve above my buttocks as I take my daily 15-20 minute walk.

I am going to approach this healing in steps, beginning with the posture and gradually incorporating the diet into my life. I think I am going to begin by brining in one new meal a week while I wean myself off of my current cuisine (which I am so sad to say is partially created by McDonald's--but at 21 weeks pregnant I figure that might be somehting in there I need--okay maybe an excuse, but I'm not superwoman. I'm going to give myself time).

Sorry I got long winded. I just have such hope with Christine's work. I have seen real changes. I just had to share.
Jane

Hi Jane~

If your new baby is a girl, she is going to be mighty fortunate to have a mommy like you to guide her through her years.

I, too, have, as you so politely put it, universal prolapses and have opted for no surgery. I have frequented a forum where I read nothing but women who have had surgery, women who are awaiting surgery and NO, I mean NO mention of taking control and first looking at alternatives to surgery. As a matter of fact, I seemed to have caused such a furour by mentioning this site. It is almost as if there is no mutual admiration club in the prolapse world. How sad!! Here a woman signs onto this board, is scared and bewildered by her failing body and reads most posts as surgery is the only solution. Oh yes, one is directed to look up other means, but when emotionally down, it is hard and especially if one isn't computer or internet savvy, it can be downright overwhelming let alone frustrating. And so, one gradually adopts a mind set of future surgery, just to "belong" to a group of sympathetic woman and to hear the desperately needed, "I understand."

Here - a whole new and very pleasant trip!

Sybille