When I first “cracked the code” on stabilizing and reversing prolapse, and wrote and published Saving the Whole Woman, I set up this forum. While I had finally gotten my own severe uterine prolapse under control with the knowledge I had gained, I didn’t actually know if I could teach other women to do for themselves what I had done for my condition.
So I just started teaching women on this forum. Within weeks, the women started writing back, “It’s working! I can feel the difference!”
From that moment on, the forum became the hub of the Whole Woman Community. Unfortunately, spammers also discovered the forum, along with the thousands of women we had been helping. The level of spamming became so intolerable and time-consuming, we regretfully took the forum down.
Technology never sleeps, however, and we have better tools today for controlling spam than we did just a few years ago. So I am very excited and pleased to bring the forum back online.
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Tamara
June 2, 2006 - 12:36pm
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flip flops
In the summer it is easier to go barefoot of course- but when you have to go somewhere what about wearing flip-flops. I have these $2/pair ones that I got from Walmart. I bought like 5 pairs because they are just like going barefoot but with something to protect the bottom of your foot, and you can still go in stores and restaurants and stuff. These shoes are just a thin piece of rubber, then a thin mat of bamboo looking wood. That's it. They aren't even 1/2 inch thick. Are they still messing with posture?
Then what- in the winter we are all just screwed? Sorry for my lack of good wording.
feetback
June 2, 2006 - 1:02pm
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3rd annual: Are shoes the cause of pelvic prolapse?
Tamara,
I agree that going barefoot may not always be practical, such as during the winter when the ground is too cold or during the summer when it's too hot; glass is another concern.
Unfortunately, there is no ideal shoe. All shoes influence gait and posture; even the weight of the shoe is sufficient to affect the way a person walks (try getting through daily life with weights tied to the wrists, and see how just the simplest of tasks become challenging or impossible).
During thousands of years, the closest that mankind has come to an ideal shoe is the original wide-toed, soft-soled moccasin, which merely protects the feet while allowing the toes some freedom of movement. Literally a "second skin", soft-soled moccasins consist of tanned leather that is wrapped loosely around each foot and held on with lacings, providing a protective, custom fit with a natural, breathable material.
james
Christine
June 2, 2006 - 2:18pm
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feet
Sybille and Jane will correct me if I’m wrong, James, but I believe this is your second “annual” visit to wholewoman. Like I told Jonathan regarding toilet-sitting, all of these aspects of civilized life have set us up for these conditions. Thanks for sharing once again, but as I told you last time, I’m not going to allow an endless harangue about shoes as sole (p.i.) causative factor of prolapse.
The good news is there’s treatment for disfigured feet and it has nothing to do with cold and hot baths, but rather gradual and increasingly strenuous work while on our barefeet and holding the body in its natural shape. My feet have “grown” an entire size since I’ve been doing this work and it is completely obvious to me how necessary it is that we support their wide, square, natural design. I believe we do have shoe companies that have been responding to the call for natural footwear for decades. Birkenstock does a fine job, as do several others.
Christine
feetback
June 2, 2006 - 3:07pm
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3rd annual: Are shoes the cause of pelvic prolapse?
Christine,
You raised an excellent point, that aspects of modern life have set us up for posture-related health problems that were practically unknown in previous generations. But of them all, the shoe stands out as the most significant physical influence on the posture and gait of the human body. The reason is that shoes act directly upon the foundation, crippling the very base of the body and leaving us susceptible to activities such as driving, sitting, standing, stooping, lifting, walking, and even sneezing among others.
Before deciding that non-deforming footwear is possible, I suggest you read some of Dr. Rossi's articles, all available on the Internet. Dr. Wikler put it best: "There are perfect feet, but there are no perfect shoes."
james
louiseds
June 3, 2006 - 4:43am
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flip flops for winter
Nah, just wear Ug boots. ;-)
Cheers
Louise
rosewood
June 3, 2006 - 11:28pm
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I haven't read the article yet
but, since discovering Christine's work, have been going barefoot whenever possible. Used to hate going barefoot -- now love it.
Also have noticed more and more the negative effect of shoes -- most of them; even the good ones,, except birks. Also, I confirm Christine's statement about working the feet -- I find it more and more crucial to my own well-being.
So, Christine, or anyone else, other good shoe options? Danskos are good, but ok? James, what say you? We can't wear none, at least not us urbanites.
Marie
BaNa48
June 4, 2006 - 6:55am
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Shoes
Here's the problem I have withour shoes! I cannot do without, because I have one leg longer than the other! If I go without for any length of time, I start having a hip ache! I can actually see in the mirror, the difference in my hips without shoes! Sometimes if I work too hard, I get the back ache back and I even walk around the house with just one shoes to bring the hip back into place! This has worked for me, instead of relying on the dr. or muscle relaxers! Hope this tip helps someone else!!!! Nancy
All the shoes I wear have a mouse pad (instead of the expensive orthodics) in my left shoe! I cut them to look like an insole!
feetback
June 4, 2006 - 9:54am
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3rd annual: Are shoes the cause of pelvic prolapse?
Nancy,
Typically, the two feet of a person are not the same size or shape, nor do they spread equally upon standing or walking. (See Rossi, William A. "The High Incidence of Mismated Feet in the Population", 1983, Vol. 4, No. 2, Foot and Ankle.) However, in modern times, left and right shoes and socks are made to be identical. Cramming differently shaped feet into same-sized shoes thus leads to a lopsidedness or lateral asymmetry with numerous symptoms throughout the body.
I consider scoliosis and leg length discrepancies to be obvious examples of the problems arising from same-sized footwear, but even pelvic prolapse would be adversely affected.
james
feetback
June 4, 2006 - 9:58am
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3rd annual: Are shoes the cause of pelvic prolapse?
Marie,
I agree that going barefoot isn't possible all of the time; besides protection from the occasional hazard, shoes are needed to just blend in with the mainstream.
The ideal shoe would fit the toes of each foot like a glove fits the fingers of each hand--providing protection but maximum range of motion in all joints. However, nobody has yet invented such a "glove" for the feet as they have for the hands. The next best shoe, as far as body mechanics is concerned, would cover the foot like a mitten covers the hand--leaving the big toe as free as the thumb in movement potential. Still, no "mitten" for the feet exists, which leads to the next choice of covering all of the toes at once, and this type of shoe construction--the wide-toed, soft-soled moccasin--has been around for thousands of years.
james
granolamom
June 4, 2006 - 12:34pm
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aha!
no wonder I've gone up half a size. my toes seem longer too. I'm always barefoot at home (or in socks if its chilly)
fullofgrace
June 4, 2006 - 1:31pm
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To Shoe or not to shoe...
Going barefoot is actually a struggle for me. I got "flywashed" by flylady (flylady.net) about wearing shoes to stay efficent at home and so now I can't stand to have my shoes off unless it's bedtime. I have no choice about shoes during the school day of course, but I have worried about my the shape of the last three toes on each foot. They are actually pointy. They are not round & flat on the bottom like my little toddler's "boxy" feet. My mother is having terrible foot trouble now and it makes me wonder what role shoes have had as part of that. I'm going to have to go on the hunt for "square" shoes. Think I'll find them?
Jane
feetback
June 4, 2006 - 4:08pm
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3rd annual: Are shoes the cause of pelvic prolapse?
As any podiatrist knows, foot trouble affects women significantly more often than men, who typically wear flatter-heeled, wider-toed shoes. (Just imagine the hand trouble we would suffer from constricting them in a similar manner.) Note that several degenerative conditions also afflict women disproportionately more than men, including arthritis, asthma, depression, osteoporosis, and even Alzheimer's disease.
Interestingly, most of the time our feet don't even hurt, despite being subjected to an unparalleled amount of stress, particularly from crippling footwear.
james
a6a25725
June 4, 2006 - 5:05pm
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To Shoe or not
I recently purchased a pair of thongs or flip flops called Cheeks by Tony Little. The footbed is by Birkenstalk. I find they help keep my feet in the proper alignment for the posture and are very comfortable. I wear them around the house and yard.
The thong is designed so it won't pull through the soles like some of the other thongs on the market.
Flora
BaNa48
June 5, 2006 - 4:47am
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Shoes
Does anyone know about the shoe called "ALDO?" What a big toe box they have! Are they good for you?
Nancy