UTI symptoms with negative test

Hi hope - I'm not the expert on UTI management, but if these pelvic rocks (new kegels) are helpful to you, then it would make sense for you to double down on your efforts with Whole Woman posture and other tools, all of which are designed to keep the bladder forward against the lower abdominal wall. It would be useful for you to tell us more about how you are managing your prolapse now. There are also many dietary factors which can cause bladder irritation, which might be different for everyone, but what resonates for me is cutting as much sugar from the diet as possible. - Surviving

I would also suggest complete emptying as Christine shows us, either tipping forward on the toilet or on all fours in the shower or over a basin. Residual urine left in the bladder can collect bacteria, and then the vicious cycle continues.
Good diet and toileting habits go a long way in preventing UTIs.
Put some key words in the search box where you will find much more discussion about this.

If you don't have the Whole Woman Fundamentals, you may want to give it a try:

https://whole-woman.thinkific.com/courses/whole-woman-fundamentals

The most basic information about posture and toileting is here that will get you started.

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Hi hope,
You are not mentioning posture in your list here, and it is the most important thing we do to keep prolapse symptoms at bay. I don't know if you have looked into Christine's work yet, that is why I mentioned the whole woman fundamentals, but there is so much to learn in her body of work that will be so helpful for prolapse management as well as all over body and spine health.

I don’t ha e a bladder prolapse so I cannot speak to that but I did have a similar situation a few years ago. I had gone to the emergency room 4 or 5 times for pain that felt like UTIs. Since I was using the veterans hospital because $$$ and had just moved to a new area I was on a thyree month waiting list to be able to see a doctor but I was in so so much pain in my bladder area. So we had to deive an hour to the nearest veterans emergency hospital. Each time they said uti and gave me drugs for it. The cultures we negative but I had white blood cells all four or five times they gave me antibiotics which further made me think uti because the pain would subside. Finally on the last visit a doctor did an xray or ultrasound i don’t remember which and found I had kidney stones. Finally had a lithotripsy to get rid of them and it’s all good. I never had pain on my side kidney area just in my bladder and it was explained to me that it’s referred pain from the kidney. I don’t knkw if that helps

I struggled with a bladder infection for almost a year. My symptoms: Strong urge to urinate, often without much output; waking up 2-3 times at night to urinate; painful bladder spasms; high white blood cell count. I consulted a nephrologist because I've had kidney problems through the years, and I hoped he would be able to determine whether this was a whole system problem. He did several urine cultures which came out negative each time. He even did a 24-hour urine collection test--also no help. Finally I found a urologist who had the good sense to order a urinalysis which tests for pathogenic DNA--as I understand it, this test can detect the presence of bacteria via their "DNA trail". Lo and behold, the test came back positive for 5 pathogenic organisms, 3 of which were over 100,000 cells/mL. I cannot explain why traditional urinalyses didn't detect these bacteria, but I do know this is common. My urologist wanted to prescribe antibiotics, but I chose not to use them because I already have gut issues from overuse of antibiotics. I began treatment with a Traditional Chinese Medicine practitioner instead. After two weeks of herbal treatment and acupuncture, most of the symptoms described above were gone. (I have not had a blood test or a repeat of the urinalysis, so I don't know where I stand with those.) No more bladder spasms, no more urgency to urinate, and I wake up only once at night to pee now. A side benefit was that another problem, edema in my lower legs and ankles, is also gone. I implemented one other thing that my practitioner recommended: He said I should reduce my water intake from 8-10 glasses per day to about 4-5 glasses per day, since the 8-10 glasses rule does not take into account the other liquids I drink during the day (tea, coffee, milk, juice), nor does it factor in the liquids in the foods I eat. (He said I should let thirst be my guide. I said, "But I never get thirsty." And he said, "That's because you drink too much water!" And he was right: I DO get thirsty now, and I drink accordingly.) I know this goes counter to health advice from medical doctors and alternative practitioners alike. But I did extensive research and found that contrary to conventional wisdom, our bodies not only do not need an additional 64-70 ounces of water per day, but this high intake can actually overwork the kidneys, cause edema, and even cause long-term kidney damage.

Along with a long-term bladder infection, I have had BV for about 2 years. Knowing that BV is often resistant to antibiotics (and having gut issues as well), I have been trying to find a natural cure that actually works. I was delighted to find this forum today, and I will be reading articles and posts to see what might help. I did see one recommendation that sounds good--raw honey. I would like to make some raw honey suppositories with coconut oil. Can anyone tell me what ratio of honey to coconut oil has worked for them? Or is there another easy way to insert the honey vaginally? I noticed that there is a video about vaginal health (coupled with another video) available here, and I'm interested in this. Is the vaginal health video available by itself, or do I need to purchase both?

A thread where Christine talks about this subject:

https://www.wholewoman.com/forum/node/7351

Miraculous self-healing Vagina is also mentioned and an excellent choice, as well as the gut bacterial health, here:

https://whole-woman.thinkific.com/courses/whole-woman-lecture-series

The raw local honey can be simply applied by putting a bit on the finger tip and then placing high up inside the vagina, very simply and effectively.

Thank you for the links to these threads, much appreciated.