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granolamom
December 10, 2006 - 6:14am
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every body is unique
if 'holding' up your pelvic floor seems to be helpful, keep on doing it. you are learning to read your body's subtle signs and you will know if what you are doing begins to make things regress.
some women here have found relief with kegels, and some find that kegels make things worse. you are becoming the expert on your body, which imo, is mighty empowering.
you do need to relax though! nothing is going to fall out while you are asleep! once you get the hang of the posture and breathing you'll see that support and stability for our pelvic organs is not dependent on active muscle contraction; but proper bony alignment and of course ligaments and fascia.
you're on the right road, susan. you can do this.
(((hugs)))
howdidthishappen
December 10, 2006 - 7:52am
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thanks
thanks for the encouragement, granolamom. it's enormously heartening to me.
i believe from reading some of your posts that you, too, have a rectocele. what's the best way to do really simple things like picking something off the floor? bending at the knees?
and i have to say, i do feel very empowered -- at least today, ;). you are right when you remind me that every body IS unique. you know, i have long known that about myself but have powered through my own body's rather loud messages. time to stop THAT, that's for sure.
thanks again for the time you've taken to respond. i have so much gratitude for it.
susan
granolamom
December 10, 2006 - 9:05am
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rectocele
I do have a mild rectocele, which causes me no trouble so long as I take care to eat well.
as far as doing simple things suck as picking things up from the floor, honestly I don't think about it. The posture has become second nature to me (well, until recently due to pg) and I try to maintain it always but when something needs to be picked up I just do it. cleaning up LOTS of things from the floor, otoh, I do on hands and knees. which happens to motivate the kids to help too, but thats besides the point.
alemama
December 10, 2006 - 2:33pm
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pg
wait a minute granolamom you are pregnant? is this your 4th? wow!
granolamom
December 11, 2006 - 7:54am
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pregnant
yes, I'm about 18 or 19 weeks along with my fourth pg. which, one year ago, I never thought possible with prolapse. thanks to christine and everyone else here (especially Jane, she doesn't post much anymore but she had a baby with prolapse)for all of their wisdom and support I got to the point where I felt it is completely possible.
so you see....life goes on!
louiseds
December 30, 2006 - 3:02am
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Picking things up
Hi Susan
Granolamum is spot on about the hands and knees routine, even if your knees do get a bit rough. There is always knee cream (which is just handcream).
Another tip is to kiss mini-skirts goodbye for good, in public at least ;-) , just bend your knees slightly with feet about 18 inches apart and bend straight down from the hip joints, ie where your femur joins onto the pelvis. That way you can bend over *and* maintain the lumbar curve. Allow your belly to stay loose and go between your thighs so that if the object is a little heavy your abdominal muscles do not try and squeeze your pelvic contents out. Just maintain that lumbar curve which will keep your pelvic floor taut both 'front to back' and 'side to side'. It also means that all your pelvic organs are kept 'up' towards your belly button and away from the vaginal opening by gravity when you are picking up.
Also, it is a little unnerving at first trusting your pelvic floor to stay together without having an anxiety attack, but it will, as long as you carry all your organs over the strong pubic bone and not over the abyss. Learning to relax and trust your body is the hard bit. You will eventually be able to relax more, and that is just the most luvverly feeling after all those years of trying to suck it all up 24/7! Practise with light things first, before you tackle anything too heavy, and remember to just ask for help for really heavy things, something that we modern women are not very good at.
Best wishes
Louise