Fund Raiser for Christine and Whole Woman

its interesting because it is like a form of therapy here, we comfort each other too, so to give a small amount back is a good thing, i would like to know how and where we give the money, maybe 14th feb {valentines day} would be an idea of a day to do it as we send each other so much love and compassion????? what yiz think????

of yourself, honey for a sore throat always works for me! and cooled boiled water with honey and lemon at bedtime.. i think if there was an account number we could send money too would be handy i think??? take care

That's a great idea, kit!

It's a fabulous idea ;-)
just wondering if there's a way of doing this through paypal for those of us w/o US accounts...

with no paypal acc.. thats why i thought of bank account details??? it would take a bit of organising but we will get there!!!, even postal orders would do wouldnt it?

I'm happy to use PAYPAL but as Ronshel30 states not everyone has a PAYPAL account. We need to come up with something that easy enough for the international member to send US funds. Like you say I am sure we will figure it out in the end. :o)

its starting to get some interest now and hopefully more as time goes by, maybe christine will let us know how to go about it, are you feeling any better?

Hey guys,

If you go to the store you will find a link at the top for donations. That way you can donate with a credit card if you prefer. This might be helpful for some :)

clondalkin, near a big shopping centre called liffey valley, its not really interesting here, nothing to do with the kids apart from a park or swimming, my grandparents are from galway and mayo, but im in dublin all my life. im sick myself now, been to the loo a dozen times today, not gonna complain too much though i dont go too easy normally!!! my son isnt well so might have caught it, hope baby doesnt get it though.. thats handy about the site having donation section, it will make it easier now...

I'm sure Christine will appreciate everyone's efforts!

Dear Kit,

What a lovely idea! I thank you from the bottom of my heart and please know I completely understand how hard it is to get people behind the idea of donating. I’ve tried and it did not go over well, although I still feel much gratitude to the handful of women who did respond.

Truth of the matter is that at some point I will have to make some changes here to balance out the give and take, as selling a book or dvd every couple of days as well as giving a few classes a week is not going to move this project forward. But I promise those changes will be for the good (and fun!) for all.

Love to you!

Christine

Kit --

Thank you very much for raising the matter of the need to support Whole Woman. I had not really registered that there is a convenient way of doing so right on the website. When you are in the Whole Woman Store (to find the store, look for the words "Whole Woman Store" on the right side of the home page), look at the tabs across the top. You'll see Books, DVD's, Balms, Consultation, and Donations. Easy as pie, and you can send a comment along if you like.

I personally feel that I could never say thank you enough. Sending a little material support helps me feel a lot better!

Thanks again,

Ellen

have no time to be sick today, minding my friends 2 girls as well as my boy and girl. son is a bit sick but he never complains! all kids watching a film in on my bed so im having a sit down before the dinner rush! i dont like to complain and i find when you are a mammy you cant be sick in peace anyway so i just carry on, ireland is lovely if you drive to the countryside, its not all bad:-}

Your POP is non-remarkable?

Sorry being nosey!

I think if I went back to the doc and gynae they would have something different to say now. Most definate buldges at the opening now that were not there then. So darn umcomfortable to. I thought I felt bad when my organs had just "slipped" but now they have fallen - geesh! I'm not sure if pessaries, sea sponges or tampons would help keep things up a little to keep it from pressing so I don't get that feeling of something about to pop out.

Anyway, this is off topic now. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Anita

how we are treated, i went to maternity hosp when it happened,3 wks after having grace, i was sooo scared, and the nurse said "what are you doing here".. looking at my baby...when i told her what had happened she said "this is for miscarriages, you have your baby what more do you want, go home"!! we are all just numbers to them

... people in the medical profession really need some training on compassion.

Unfortunately most of us have come across a uncaring doctor, nurse, midwife etc. It is a shame it has to be that way.

I was sent to a consultant a few years ago becuase I was getting recurrent Vertigo and when I saw him he was so cocky and unsympathetic and said to me on my way out "don't worry you don't have a brain tumour, that's what most people assume". I hadn't even thought about it and how would he know anyway - did he have x-ray vision!

All those doctors and gynae that look at our POP and say "oh that's not so bad" have never experienced one themselves or 9 times out of 10 are a man.

I found this quote on another site from a MALE urogynaecologist:-

You're all fantastic. Yes, life has thrown you all a curveball. Hey - it could have been worse. Keep the spirits up!

I would like to see if he was so perky if he had something hanging out of his butt on a permanent basis!

that says it all, its really full of feeling and i am typing this relpy through tears, i am so happy to have found you all...

I think you have captured the feelings of gratitude that most of us feel for Christine and her work. You expressed it wonderfully and put that feeling into words.
Thank you.
Flora.

Hi Kit and Anita

Hang on a minute. What do you expect from doctors? This is medicine (which is the diagnosis of disease and treatment of disease with drugs) and surgery (cutting things out and rearranging bodily parts with surgical instruments). We can wish as much as we like but caring and nurturing are not core activities in medicine. If you are lucky you might get it but I am afraid the days of the benevolent old gentle, family doctor are over. This is an industry we are talking about. It is selling stuff. Just like any other set of products, some are good/useful and some are bad/not useful/damaging.

Saying a prolapse is unremarkable is probably pretty true. S/he probably sees quite a few of them, and it may be unremarkable to him/her. But s/he is not you, and doesn't have to live with them.

I think what comes over as callous disregard for your suffering is probably an acknowledgement that conventional medicine and probably surgery have little to offer in treatment for POP, which is why they see so many prolapses. Your doctor probably regards your POP a bit like warts or common moles, harmless with no need for treatment, which is pretty ignorant.

IMAO, they have gone away from being healers, which is why they don't take on board the need for healing, and why they are not very good at healing. They disregard other forms of medicine and healing because they are trained in conventional medicine and surgery only. They see other forms of healing or alternative therapies as invalid, not complementary. What's more, many governments endorse their approach over the alternatives and feed them with customers via national health systems, so they have little interest in disturbing the status quo.

Cheers

Louise

Yeah, I agree about being an eternal optimist, but as the years go by I am also more of a realist. I have had some great treatment from doctors and alternative health practitioners as well. I have also had some very bad and downright harmful and ignorant treatment from both, so I am not a total doctor basher. It is a nice surprise when you are treated well, but it is always 'buyer beware' as far as I am concerned. I am the one who has to live with the results of any treatment I take on.

Cheers

Louise

Your poem and your voice are remarkable. I envy how words flow from you. My Mother was like you - she wrote plays, poems, short stories, music.... It was all wonderful, and I am planning on compiling it into a soft-cover book for my daughter & granddaughter. I have a very hard time expressing myself in writing - hence I do not contribute alot here. Not because I don't want to, or because I don't have something to say, or support that I want to give. I just feel self-conscious when writing, unless it has to do with facts, figures, reality, etc. I guess that's why I was such a good computer programer/systems analyst when I did that for a living.

Your poem certainly touched my heart, as your others also did. I re-read all of them from time to time. They give me the deep, emotional support that I find so hard to ask for. It's so much easier to ask for the 'how to' information in dealing with POP. The support that you give is unconditional and so beneficial. Thank you again for sharing and for your voice. It is appreciated more than you know....
Goldfinch

You are a Special person...and I consider you a friend too!
Thank you!
Goldfinch :-)

My husband and I have been married in February for 26 years, his birthday is in February, and of course so is Valentine's Day. And every year I help line the pockets of the greeting card industry with all of the money I spend on the cards I buy in February (and many other times during the year.)

So this year, instead of buying each other a Valentine's Day card, my husband and I decided to send a check to Whole Woman, obviously with a little more added in then 2 cards would cost. I would have spent the money anyhow, and would much rather give it to Christine.

This year at work, instead of giving each other Secret Santa gifts, we pooled the $15 that we usually spent and made a donation to a local animal shelter. Some people bought dog & cat food, cat litter, collars, leashes, etc. and some just gave the money. What a good feeling to do that instead of buying another knick-knack for someone.

I hope everyone can find some small way to take some money that you would spend anyhow on something (coffee on the way to work?) and instead give it to Christine.

I'm sending a check, as I find that much easier.

Thanks again, Kit, for the great suggestion.

Goldfinch

Ah - Here it is...

Its my sons birthday on 14th Feb :-)

I will help in any way I can - Is there a paypal way to pay ? Letters from here take forever, and it's easier that way :-)

You have some great ideas :-)
Sue

*The typo queen has invaded me - Arghhhhhhh*

Look into the eyes - They hold the key!
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I went to the Whole Woman Store and tried to make a donation through the donation link without actually buying something. It didn't work - at checkout it told me my balance was $0. Maybe Christine can tell us if there is a way to do it through the donation link. It seems that would be the easiest for people outside of the country. I personally have never used PayPal, so I have no idea how it works.

For U.S. people. sending a check is probably the easiest.

It was so wonderful of Kit to come up with this idea. I know times are hard now for everyone, but if Christine ever had to close the Whole Woman center and this forum, I'm not sure what I would do. So hopefully people will find a way, no matter where they live. Thanks again, Kit!!
Goldfinch

Hi Goldfinch,

That process doesn't seem very logical to me either, but it does work. You just have to keep clicking onto the next page until you see the box where you can enter an amount.

:-) Christine

I don't think I went far enough. I was trying it out so I could post some information. Writing a check is easier for me. Hopefully, someone will use the link all the way to the end and then let everyone here know how easy it is.
Goldfinch