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goldfinch1
January 27, 2008 - 10:08am
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Coughing
Sue - I tend to cough a lot, especially in the winter. Not big hacking coughs like when you have a cold, just anoying 'clearing your throat' coughs. I think it a 'dry air' thing from the forced hot air system in my house. Anyhow, if I put my finger on my POP and then cough, it amazes me how much downward movement there is. So I think the act of straining due to constipation puts a LOT of downward pressure on all POP's, not just rectocele.
Goldfinch
MeMyselfAndI
January 27, 2008 - 10:17am
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I guess
Lucky I don't have a cough then (lol) Though I did have a post operative cough for a few days in March 07 - Did not notice any POP change then tho.
Maybe it is just the annoyance of this thing that gets to me. I am desperate to find a way to make it like it was before when I only felt it every few months at period time.
Scared of the future also (If it exits)
Continually checking my posture. Just fraustrating.
Continually thinking of what will make it go in whilst not lying down (lol)
Sometimes it feels like its peeking when I check and it isn't - So it leaves me with a weird feeling which makes me feel annoyed even when It's behaving - lol
When I am sat down I feel fine. Though I cannot spend the rest of my life sitting on my butt! (Well - I could - But I don't wanna)
Goddddd it is sooooooooooooooooooo annoyinggggggggggggggg
Sue
*Runnnnnnnnn Typofever may get you too!*
Look into the eyes - They hold the key...
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ronshel30
January 27, 2008 - 10:17am
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pushing
a baby out involves contractions and i think they kinda tighten things upward as we push down??? thats just how i think of it really not sure though, i have a front wall prolapse and 19 months later still dont push too much when trying to go toilet, everything wants to come down if i try, its so scary... i just go back a while later, its terrible.. im lucky if i go every 4 or 5 days!
MeMyselfAndI
January 27, 2008 - 10:23am
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I think - The bowel
I am thinking the bowel is kinda like a snake. I have noticed in all the notpushing - That if you just wait - Then go when you get 'thecall' And sit - Breathe deeoly - You can feel it kinda moving anyways like a snake can move along the ground - The bowel is designed for this and methinks this is what it does when you do not push etc.
I am not 100% sure of this but that is what it feels like to me.
I think that the waiting for it (If you are constipated this must be terribly annoying methinks) Is possibly time consuming and people just wanna get it over with so push it out to get on with their day and forget about it.
If you eat alot of veg and fruit and stuff then you shouldnt have any constipation problems. I am glad I do not have this much *touch wood* I have found strawberries make things move down there in a big way - If you eat enough of em that is - lol
Sue
*To typo or not to typo - Now that is the question*
Look into the eyes - They hold the key...
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goldfinch1
January 27, 2008 - 10:24am
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Peeking
Sue - I also have that weird sensation when I think that it's peeking, but when I check it isn't. That's when I use a little more KY, and the feeling goes away. Yesterday I spent the day babysitting my 2 year old granddaughter, and I didn't get much sit-down-time (vs my usual schedule when I sit all day at work). I found the constant movement of the day made me feel that peeking sensation more - so a little KY did the trick. I think I am naturally very dry down there now. Slept for 10 hours last night - today I feel great!
Goldfinch
ronshel30
January 27, 2008 - 10:28am
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if i eat any more veg ill burst:-}
i have smoothies and veg every day, water too, i try do what we should but nothing helps, sometimes i can go at the period time of month a little better? i have been to doc and he tells me to eat and drink as i do so i dont know what esle i can do... i do sit and breath deeply and it works sometimes!
MeMyselfAndI
January 27, 2008 - 10:36am
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Sensations...
Maybe it's the sensation that makes me worry more - Cos if I didn't FEEL like this weird feeling - Then checkerama wouldn't happen and I wouldnt't know any better!
I think if I were older I might be able to cope more but having been disabled for 5.5yrs now - I am valueing anything I CAN do and feel this POP is trying to take that away too!
As you can prolly tell my main feelings at this time are Anger at POP and fear because of POP.
Desperation to find an answer to why its suddenly here (which means nothing really if I can get it to go away again)
*sighssssssssss*
Sue
*I did NOT make that Typo. This hand I am trying to type with did it - It's obviously posessed*
Look into the eyes - They hold the key...
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ronshel30
January 27, 2008 - 10:41am
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anger
is a big part of all this, i have wondered is it the kind of thing that i would feel better if i had some counselling??? i know that being able to "talk" here really helps so maybe??? has anyone thought about it?
MeMyselfAndI
January 27, 2008 - 10:45am
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Counselling...
Might help but I don't think they can actually say anything constructive. Here you get both sides of the thought of other people (good or bad)
I just feel so *needing to find the solution to this to normalise life*
No word for that I guess
Sue
Look into the eyes - They hold the key...
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goldfinch1
January 27, 2008 - 11:02am
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Life
Life is not kind - I came to that conclusion a long time ago. Many people have chosen to talk about their lives on this forum - I have not, though I could fill pages. POP or no POP, I will live my life the way I want too. I will try to manage it with the Whole Woman techniques, but I will NOT let it control me. I have faith that I will be safe, and I cherish every day because what else do I have? Sue, I hope that you find peace with your POP and that you can get past this. Even though it has gotten worse lately, have faith that with time is will calm down again. {{HUGS}} to you from a far.
Goldfinch
Christine
January 27, 2008 - 12:16pm
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life
I love your thoughts, Goldfinch. How can this ww process be anything but a marvelous evolution of women? Whether we choose to share our s*** , respond, or just compassionately listen, it’s true that the process of sharing our burdens with other women is the very best balm for the soul. I want to encourage unconditional love as well, because we can all (esp. me) be dorks on occasion. Love, compassion, forgiveness, humor, and support must be our core values.
ATS
January 27, 2008 - 12:18pm
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Checking
Sue, I've been doing alot of checking to lately. It feels like it MUST have exited so I have to check and it hasn't but the sensation is right there. Today I can feel a squidgy mass up there and it feels heavy like it is pulling and if I opened my legs whilst standing it would just go plop! You know what I mean? It doesn't but that's how it feels.
MeMyselfAndI
January 27, 2008 - 12:25pm
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Yeah
Once today I checked and there was a lump peeking - That freaks me out and makes me check all the more (I really shouldnt - Its not emptionally healthy I know) If I didnt keep feeling it though - Like it is peeking - I wouldnt check though would I - So it's getting that feeling to go away that might make me feel better (For all I know it has been the same as this for ages - I just never noticed as I didn't have this weird feeling)
Just still want it to go away and get outtamy head so I can have relative peace again...
Christine...
You said...
I want to encourage unconditional love as well, because we can all (esp. me) be dorks on occasion. Love, compassion, forgiveness, humor, and support must be our core values.
I wish I could get that into my relationship, on my side not his. I think that I am so messed up in POP and my disability and everything that he does something small to other people but it is something HUGE to me. He never understood that though... Even though I tried to get it through his thick head.
Sue
Look into the eyes - They hold the key...
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